I bought a pile of DirecTV equipment and need some guidance.

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  1. dpeters11

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    Some also feel that having a contract is a debt that you are in with DirecTV and they don't like having any debts, whether of money or time.
     
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  2. damondlt

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    It's not always better though, regardless of how they feel.
    I don't like commitments either, but I'm not going to spend hundreds or even thousands on equipment that only works with that provider anyway.

    I could see owning a small setup for a vacation home, but that's about it.
    The fact that you can't transfer and your recordings are married to the device, I see no point in spending money on owning or upgrades for archiving when everything can be lost in the blink of an eye.
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  3. Rich

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    Took me what? 3 days to put that 3TB in and you think it doesn't care? It fought me tooth and nail... :rolling:

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  4. harsh

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    Yet it is a debt that you haven't incurred (and probably won't).

    That's a little like saying you don't want to have friends because it may cost you more than you get back in the future.
     
  5. Shades228

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    You're incorrect. There can be new accounts setup with owned equipment. They cannot however be purchased through 3rd party initially. Someone could get 1 owned receiver installed and DIY the rest.

    OP if I were you I'd just rip and the HD's out and sell them on CL and recycle the rest or put them all together that you confirm can be activated and sell them as a batch on Ebay
     
  6. energyx

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    If any of the H25 or HR24 are owned, let me know. I may be interested.
     
  7. joshjr

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    I paid $100 for my owned HR44. Do you consider that a significant up front cost? I guess I paid another $20 for the new card but that is nothing to own it. I think the non return fee is more than that. No new commitment. I already had a HR34 so even though I was eligible for an upgrade, a Genie was out of the question so I could not of received it for free unless maybe I purchased it from SS and then hoped to get refunded. I cut out the middle man instead. People who are paying DirecTV to upgrade to the HR44 are paying more usually.
     
  8. harsh

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    As compared with a free upgrade, yes.
    That DIRECTV policy seems to prohibit subscribers from upgrading from an HR34 to an HR44 is a whole other discussion but it admittedly validates part of your argument.
     
  9. damondlt

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    It's $120 more than it would have cost to lease.
    And that is nowhere near the going rate for the HR44.
    And don't forget your Protection plan at another $100 a year.

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  10. joshjr

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    That is not entirely true. Not everyone gets a free upgrade to a HR44. Isnt the standard price $299 and then it triggers a new 2 year agreement and its still leased? For $120 and no contract, I will take that anyday all day and twice on Sunday. Also dont forget that the people that are getting for free leased are also paying that PP fee as well supposedly.
     
  11. joshjr

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    But we both know that not everyone upgrades for free. So anyone upgrading at the $299 charge, would you rather upgrade for $120 or $299 and it be leased with a new 2 year commitment?
     
  12. JosephB

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    I would bet all the money in my pockets that there is a software license agreement that you agree to when opening the box, opening the access card, or open your account (even if you don't have a 24 month commitment, you still sign a contract) that says you can't modify those boxes, regardless of ownership status.

    Remember, in the software world you never "own" anything. You just buy permission to use it.
     
  13. slice1900

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    Yes, I'd assume that as well. But if you bought one, and just put the unopened box on a shelf, I don't see how they could legally try to charge you anything additional.
     
  14. Rich

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    And you'd lose all your money.

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  15. JosephB

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    I doubt it. I know for a fact there is an EULA that you agree to when you break the seal on an access card. I've never read it but I won't believe it doesn't have provisions in there about modifications.

    Now are they going to sue you for putting in a hard drive? Of course not. But, ownership status isn't what keeps them from doing so, and if you started making more provocative modifications to a receiver that you owned instead of leased, that wouldn't keep you out of court either.
     
  16. WestDC

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    based on my personal experience in 2013 i was offered a genie upgrade ($99) no commitment was discussed as I didn't care I've been with the current with D* since 1997 and I'm going anywhere else.

    It was installed by D* and I have enjoyed my HR-44-200 every since - Yes it's leased if I added a larger drive on my own know eles no knows but me is it wrong for me to have done it or not - No body knows but me - As I have not called for service and have not requested any help in any way.

    As far as the op he has spent his money and he has what he has.
     
  17. dpeters11

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    I paid $400 for my leased HR34.
     
  18. dpeters11

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    Well, there are some modifications that would be against the terms. It's just that changing the hard drive isn't one of them.
     
  19. Rich

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    Still wrong. Read the TOS. As for making more provocative modifications to do...what? I have no idea how to do anything but fix these things and that's a pretty short list. I can use these things for hockey pucks and nobody can do anything about it. Again, read the TOS.

    Rich
     
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    I have no idea how to do anything but change an HDD, a fan or a power supply. Anything else is beyond my technological ability. The only reason I own all my equipment is so I could fix them or put in a bigger internal HDD. Anybody that thinks I didn't do my homework about owned equipment is delusional.

    Rich
     

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