I have a certain place in my heart for satellite tv.

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Creedyfbaby, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. makaiguy

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    When has ATT ever worried about generating ill will?
     
  2. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    The point is AT&T|DIRECTV already has a scheme in place to charge some customers different prices than others. While I do not expect to see two price lists (one for rural and one for city) as you seem to be fixated on there is the ability to charge some customers more for the same service due to discounts. Other companies also offer discounts to certain customers but DIRECTV's discounts seem to be larger - for those who ask and somehow qualify.
     
  3. harsh

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    You don't need to explain all the different ways that AT&T could try to obscure their upcharging. They are fairly well detailed in their fine print.

    It seems unlikely to me that DIRECTV will be the survivor in this battle of attrition so it is probably better to discuss this outside the context of AT&T or DIRECTV as we think we know them.
     
  4. James Long

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    I mention DIRECTV because this thread is in the DIRECTV forum and they have the history of large discounts for some customers. DISH isn't known for giving large discounts. I do not expect two price lists (one city, one rural) if DISH combines operations. I also do not expect all the other nasty behaviors that people claim will happen if there is only one satellite carrier. The places where there is adequate competition will help keep "satellite" competitively priced ... Pay TV is not a required purchase. People can unsubscribe even if they have no other option. There is no constitutional guarantee of reasonable prices for Pay TV. :)
     
  5. harsh

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    But even the diehard fanboy will agree that AT&T's DIRECTV isn't the DIRECTV that subscribers remember fondly. Discounts and other perks have been an increasingly unexpected exception rather than the norm since the takeover.

    NFLST may be a notable exception as there seemed to be a rash of free subscriptions given out a while back (perhaps because they were getting below a promised eyeball level). Not having a lot of the bars and taverns open for business as usual has surely nuked the number of viewers.
     
  6. Davenlr

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    The progress being made with ATSC 3.0 is also going to eventually come into the picture, as those pay channels people REALLY want (not the chaff) will be able to be sent out into the boonies on a high power tv transmitter. I just received my ATSC 3.0 receiver (no active stations here yet) but it is coming,.
     
  7. gandl

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    Where did you get your ATSC 3.0 receiver from? And if you don’t mind- how much is it?
     
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  8. SledgeHammer

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    I live in a "high tech city" and my options are DirecTV, Dish, Cox, T-Vision, OTT.

    * Cox: Not really that much cheaper then DirecTV. PQ is lower. Channels are all west coast feeds.
    * Dish: Before WFH, we had Dish in our break room. Not sure if it was a poor install or a crappy TV or both, but the PQ was terrible. Feedback on the forums also say PQ is lower then DirecTV.
    * TVision: Slightly cheaper then DirecTV, but PQ was terrible. Channels are all west coast feeds.
    * OTT: Can't get all my channels in a single place, so costs add up. App juggling. Crappy cloud DVRs, etc.

    I mentioned the west coast feed thing... I'm in California, but I like that DirecTV gives me the east coast feeds of nationals like Sci, History, etc. Puts all the cable shows into prime time vs. late night.
     
  9. dtv757

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    I compared COX and DirecTV, cox PQ was horrible NBA waa unwatchable

    Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
     
  10. P Smith

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    You got it as test device or bought it ? Then what model, what store is selling ?
     
  11. Davenlr

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  12. harsh

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    The standalone two-tuner unit is listed in the SiliconDust Shop at the same price (for preorder).
     
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  14. James Long

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    I’ve seen that link but can’t find any detailed information about what specific channels are broadcasting in my market (Dallas) and if any are actually broadcasting in 4k.
     
  16. harsh

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    As James Long says, don't expect regular 4K broadcasts in the near future (if ever).

    The FCC has mandated that the area stations get together and pick a couple of "lighthouse" stations to carry all of the NEXTGEN TV channels. These are typically copies of the HD channels offered via DTV. To do that, the donor stations have to "buddy up" with the remaining DTV stations to broadcast their DTV programming. Sometimes this means a channel will go from HD to SD or be left out altogether.

    My market, Portland, Oregon, is has two full-time NEXTGEN TV broadcasts that carry all the bigs: ABC, CBS and CW on one and NBC, Fox, PBS and MyTV on the other.

    The fallout on the DTV side is that all but one of the broadcasters is sending two HD channels along with their SD subchannels. The odd man out is sending one 1080i stream and five SD streams.

    Again, 4K is not coming any time soon.

    When things may change is after DTV has been sunset as the official broadcast standard and then only if there are 4K broadcasts to carry.

    Depending on who is telling the story, 4K with full surround takes up the better part of an RF channel. One presentation slide showed that there could be two, but I'll believe it when I see it.

    Don't be looking for any regular UHD broadcasts. Just as not all flat panel TVs are 4K, most all NEXTGEN TV will NOT be 4K for the foreseeable future.
     
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  17. jamieh1

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    I remember the old RCA receiver, the slow graphics and channel changes. But at the time it was awesome having it vs cable.
     
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  18. TheRatPatrol

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    Anyone else remember or used a Microsoft Ultimate TV DVR? I did. It was great.
     
  19. JoeTheDragon

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    will they add an locals fee like the RSN fees that verys market to market?
     
  20. krel

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    oh boy do i remember those days. DTV was stellar CSR'S in america 24-7 support. there were two seperate bills one for DTV and the other for ussb. you bought the boxes and installed em yourself or paid someone to do it for you. those were the days. my first DVR with them was an HR10-250 HD:rolleyes:
     
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