I just joined today and got a Blu Ray player to replace my DVD player...

Discussion in 'Blu-Ray Hardware' started by scooper, Jan 21, 2019.

  1. scooper

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    It's a Samsung BD-J5900 , does 3D as well as upconverts DVD to 1080i. What do I need to watch 3D ? And if I need a "3D" TV, that's a non-starter.

    The apps on it are pretty pathetic in number, as well as what's available in it's "App store". I have a Fire TV if I really want to stream.
     
  2. Rich

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    I do believe you need a 3D TV set to see 3D. I think that player upscales to 1080p. My oldest 4K set can do 3D. The others can't. Never use it.

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  3. scooper

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    You might be correct on the 1080p upscale. I'm using it on an "ancient" (when that size cost $600+ ) Olevia 32 inch that has a screen size of 1368 x 768 pixels. Still has a great picture IMO. But it is a little difficult to tell the difference between a blu ray disc and an upscaled DVD on this TV.
     
  4. compnurd

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    Yes you need a 3D capable tv
     
  5. Rich

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    I have compared DVDs to BDs on my 4K sets. BDs upscale beautifully, DVDs don't. There's a huge difference. We still have over a hundred (WAG) DVDs left in the house, they never get used.

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    Depends on the source material used for the DVD. Some upscale nicely, others don't.
     
  7. Rich

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    OK, let me refine my statement...I cannot remember one DVD that I watched on the 4K sets that didn't annoy me because of the PQ. Never had an issue with BDs. I had a reason for throwing out all our DVDs, bins and bins of DVDs some not even opened. I threw out the whole Soprano's DVD set unopened. Shouldn't say "threw out", I donated them to a church but the people that got their hands on the bins swiped them and sold most of them on eBay. Dirtbags.

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    Glenee

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    I have seen some impressive upscaling work by my Oppo 203 to a Samsung KS9000. I watched True Grit regular DVD lately, and it was stunning what the oppo did with the Samsung Display.
     
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    Mark Holtz

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    Hold on a second.... the best possible resolution for DVDs is 480i, or standard definition. At the time of the format's release (1997), most people had just 4:3 Standard Definition sets (and CRTs at that), with the format being at least forward looking in that it supported 16:9 format. Some early DVD releases, however, were authored to only 4:3 even if it was a widescreen release. HDTVs didn't even start to be released until 1998, and were very expensive at that. Compare that to this 2015 report where at least 81% of households have at least one HDTV. Also, the ideal maximized size for a Standard Definition set was 25" in the household, partially because of cost of manufacturing and such (remember, CRT). Most material produced for television prior to 2000 (at least) was made for 4:3 Standard Definition. If the original material is videotaped (e.g. Golden Girls, All In The Family), then there is zero possibility upscaling. If the material was filmed, then there is a possibility of a higher resolution release provided the original source material exists. Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, and Babylon 5 are problematic in that the series was filmed, and then post-production, including the visual effects, were done on videotape. Paramount was able to re-do the effects for ST:TNG, but that was around the time that streaming came into favor. With the exception of the original Doctor Who story Spearhead From Space (which was 100% filmed due to a strike at the time), most of the Doctor Who stories (as well as BBC Britcoms) were hybrid in that they combined both videotaped interior scenes as well as filmed exterior scenes, with select Doctor Who stories prior to 1986 and all Doctor Who stories from 1986 to the original series conclusion in 1989 being on videotape.

    In comparison, the maximum resolution for a BluRay disc is 1080p, and a UltraHD is up to 4K. Much higher resolution available.

    There are some tricks available. I know that the program Handbrake has the ability to de-interlace a interlaced source, which does somewhat improve the picture. But that only goes so far. The best I've seen in releases is upconversion from 480i to 720p, with some mixed results. Because the physical media market has imploded, some less-well known won't see a BluRay release. I'm not holding my breath for a BluRay re-release of Emergency! .
     
  10. Rich

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    Read this post and I think you agree with me...is that true or did I miss something?

    Rich
     
  11. James Long

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    You are at the mercy of your upscaler. Some upscalers do a decent job of filling in the blanks when presented with a less than 4K (or less than HD) picture. A bad upscaler can make anything look like garbage.
     
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    I just got the Dunkirk 4K DVD and played on my 4K Samsung DVD player into my Samsung 4K 82" 80 series flat screen. Amazing quality video, and the Dolby sound had my wife coming into the theater and saying "You're shaking the house!" Had to tell her "But dear, it's a WAR. Have to recreate it at original levels!"
     

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