I need wiring help for a 33 room hotel.....

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  1. doctor j

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    Try searching "COM 1000 Directv system".
    That will do what you want but you're looking at $1200 - $1500 per channel for a basic 12 channel HD setup. Costs go down some per channel after that but not much.

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    Requires a STB (receiver) in each room.:(:nono2:
    You need a COM 1000 system for Hotel/Hospitality environments such as you are describing.

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    Thanks, I found this: http://www.pdisat.com/documents/MDU_COMPLETE_PDI-SAT.pdf


    It helps in being able to view the equipment but a wiring diagram would connect the dots in my head. :)


    Curious: The 33 rooms is a training facility at our corporate office, not really a hotel so to speak. Employees are the people that stay overnight there. Would that make any difference to DirecTV?

    Thanks for the help!

    Also, any suggestions for an installer in Metro Atlanta?



    edit: I found this wiring diagram. Does the green line at the bottom go to the TV sets? Is it coax?

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  5. doctor j

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    Costs above do not include a Pro Idiom capable HD TV in each room for more BIG bucks.
    What you want can easily be done. It's just much more expensive to get into digital HD video distribution!!!
    Costs are substantially down from a couple of years ago and probably will still continue down.
    However, will always be orders of magnitude more expensive that the old SD analog systems.

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    Still not an environment you want to "leave" set top boxes "available".

    Here's the diagram:

    http://www.pdisat.com/product/product_pdf/08002ce99c421bab6381d1636e49f9c9.pdf

    PDI-Sat is a great starting point.

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  7. TreyS

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    Thanks again for the suggestions and help.

    Looks like the COM1000 won't be an option for us. Management won't pay for any special Pro:Idiom HDTVs. We already have HDTVs in the rooms so they won't replace them.
     
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  9. doctor j

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    1) Green line on Com 1000 is standard coax backbone that exists.

    2) Not uncommon to place TV's THEN think about content and realize nice new expensive TV's aren't up to what you need.

    3) Sonora is another vendor of SWM technology systems. Bundle components nicely but to my research pricey compared to individual components at best prices.

    4) You still must not understand the idea of content disribution.
    If you are willing to have $100 to $200 boxes available to go missing or get drenched in the liquid of the day at each TV in each room then any of the MFH2 - SWM (same thing/different designation) technology will work.

    Usually the need for set top box is a major pain for public systems.
    An add on box for Pro Idiom to other TV's may be available.

    Again PDI-SAT is a source to discuss your options , design, sell and install with F/U service. All or any part you want. From your pixs it looks like they did the head end of your present system.

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  10. BattleZone

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    And that's almost always the story. Management goes out and buys HDTVs for all the rooms, installs them, and only then does it occur to them that the SD picture looks awful on them. Then, they learn that their TVs aren't compatible with free-to-guest distribution of HD, so they scrap the whole thing.
     
  11. doctor j

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    +1000:D:D:D

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  12. soccercoach61

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    Just out of curiousity, is there a Pro:Idiom adapter that can be retrofitted to an existing HDTV to make it compatible? Of course if there is, the total cost of the TV + Adapter is probably higher than purchasing a Pro:Idiom compatible TV in the first place...
     
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    By definition, "Pro:Idiom-compatible" means that it will accept the Pro:Idiom module. It is *possible* but unlikely that the OP's managment ended up with compatible TVs. A check of the model number will answer that question.

    But, no, there isn't any way to adapt a non-PI-compatible TV. The entire point of this exercise is that the data has to be encrypted until it reaches the TV screen. Pro:Idiom does this by having an external module that hooks into the TV's existing encryption system (HDMI uses encryption) to verify a valid, encrypted connection.

    The rules for HDTV are NOT like SDTV. The content providers never worried about copy protection with SDTV, because once they lost the "fair use" case with the VCR, the genie was out of the bottle. But with HDTV, they've required much higher levels of protection. Ever wonder why TiVos don't just have an HDMI input, or why your computer doesn't have one? The content providers have placed a lot more restrictions on the way you can access their HD/digital content.

    So, the only way to use the existing coax infrastructure to distribute HD, especially with premium content available, is with a fully encrypted system. That's why you need the expensive Pro:Idiom system and not just some HD modulators, and that's why the TV has to have support built-in.
     
  14. egnlsn

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    No. The only solution DTV has to deliver HD like that is the COM1000 system.

    Dish Network is another story...
     
  15. Hospitalityhdtv

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    TreyS, did you ever get this going?
    We do this stuff all the time, I can help out if needed.
    Here's a link to the last system I installed,
    Can't post url I don't have 5 posts yet, just search youtube for MyHotelhdtv
    Just playing around with a new HD camera. I'm going to MA in the morning on an install, I'll try to get some better video.
     
  16. TreyS

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    Thanks for the reply and link. I'll check it out. We never pulled the trigger on the upgrade so if and when it happens, I'll tell them to give you a call.

    Thanks again!
     

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