I want my HBO

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Roger Wilder, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. NYDutch

    NYDutch DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Dec 28, 2013
    HBO is already a competitor...

    HBO NOW®
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  2. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    Apr 17, 2003
    That is part of the problem. Content providers (channels) partner with distributors such as DISH, DIRECTV and other systems to deliver their content to subscribers. When a content provider offers a direct subscription it undercuts the partnership. It can't be good for HBO to lose access to millions of potential subscribers via DISH, but with alternate delivery they can keep many of those customers.

    Maybe I am missing it, but I don't see the usual heavy negative advertising by a content provider that has been dropped. A few years ago HBO would have been flooding the marketplace with "dump DISH" advertising. It seems both companies have made their opening statements ... HBO saying why the offer is fair and DISH stating why it is not without revealing proprietary information. The availability of HBO Now can help DISH since people who must have their HBO do not have to go to DIRECTV or another full service provider.

    I'd like to see HBO return but only if it is a good deal for both HBO and DISH. At the moment it is a quiet stalemate.
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  3. NashGuy

    NashGuy Active Member

    Jan 30, 2014
    Nashville, TN
    No, Showtime, Starz and HBO all stream in 1080p through the various apps they use, whether direct from them or as an add-on in Amazon Prime Video or Hulu.

    As for content in the original (on-demand) Hulu service, some of that is 720p and some is 1080p. I think it just depends on the underlying network/source.

    All that said, not all 1080p is created equal. 1080p content often looks better from Amazon and Netflix (better encoding/less compression artifacts) than from those other services. The best possible picture quality for HBO, Showtime, Starz and Cinemax is probably if you add them as "Amazon Channels" to your Prime Video subscription.

    Does 1080p from HBO Now look better than HBO in 1080i from cable or satellite? I'd say it looks better in HBO Now than it does from at least some cable/sat sources. Whether it looks as good via HBO Now as it does from DirecTV satellite, though, I don't know, given that DirecTV is generally regarded as having the best picture quality among major cable TV distributors.
  4. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    I used to have plasma TV sets that could tell me what resolution they receive. With my Samsung sets that's not possible in some cases. I use ATVs for Showtime, Starz and HBO NOW and if I try to find the res on them all I see is 2160p which is what the ATVs put out. There are times that I see very good PQ on Showtime and Starz but that's usually in close ups. But, generally, those sites look like 720p upscaled to 2160p. HBO NOW doesn't seem to look as good as it used to, might be my imagination.

  5. Michael P

    Michael P Hall Of Fame

    Oct 27, 2004
    People with older TV's many not have any HDMI ports.
  6. mwdxer

    mwdxer Well-Known Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Seaside Oregon
    There are V/A to HDMI connectors out there. Amazon sells them. I use one on one of my older TVs.
  7. scooper

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Kansas City KS
    Or you can get HDMI switches, or run them through an A/V receiver that can switch HDMI inputs.
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  8. Michael P

    Michael P Hall Of Fame

    Oct 27, 2004
    I don't believe that those adapters work in both directions. I used one that converts RCA V/A to HDMI but not the other way around.
  9. Jim5506

    Jim5506 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 7, 2004
    Bing "HD Fury", they convert HDMI to VGA/Component video output with stereo audio. I used one on my Sony D50 until I bought a Moome card.
  10. pmayo2002

    pmayo2002 AllStar

    Mar 30, 2002
    Those that live in rural areas with limited internet choices are being held for ransom by ATT. I would switch to Dish in a second if HBO was available. My bill will go from $155 to $210/month after my year 2 savings runs out next month.

    Our neighborhood is trying to incentivized Comcast to run lines here.
  11. BillJ

    BillJ Icon

    May 5, 2005
    Don't expect much help from Comcast. In my area both Dish and Direct provide Chicago locals in HD with Chicago being our local market area. Comcast still only provides the Chicago channels in SD, insisting two much smaller markets are our local area and giving us their network channels in HD. We've begged them for the Chicago HD channels but they won't provide them. Yes, I sometimes get frustrated with DISH but I won't switch to Comcast for my TV even though I have their high speed internet already.
  12. cpdretired

    cpdretired AllStar/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

    Aug 25, 2003
    Where are you located? It seems weird that Comcast won't supply Chicago locals in HD.
  13. compnurd

    compnurd Hall Of Fame

    Apr 23, 2007
    Evans City PA
    Set your ATV to match content and your TV will show you the correct resolution it is getting
  14. BillJ

    BillJ Icon

    May 5, 2005
    Straight west about 90 miles from the Loop. Yes, it is weird but that's Comcast's rule. Previous cable companies didn't seem to have a problem and most people around here would prefer treating Chicago as their home market. Comcast insists home market is Rockford or Quad Cities or Peoria for this area. May be closer in some cases but definitely not areas we are interested in. So many have gone to satellite to get the channels from Chicago they want to watch.
  15. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    Apr 17, 2003
    The Chicago market ends with Dekalb and La Salle counties. Lee and Ogle are in the Rockford market. Bureau is in Quad Cities (along with the counties west of Lee and Ogle).

    DISH offers Rockford locals in Dixon IL (90 miles west of Chicago).
  16. BillJ

    BillJ Icon

    May 5, 2005
    Yup. And we're in Lasalle County. No problem with DISH. Problem is Comcast must use a different map. And they don't seem to care what their customers want.

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