IE9 Beta

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  1. Steve

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    I know at least one bank that still has a legacy B-B application that requires their business customers to maintain IE6 on some of their workforce machines, just for particular use of that program.

    You're right. It's not an issue for general consumers, tho, thank goodness! :)
     
  2. Shades228

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    The main reason IE6 is still dominant in corporations is because of custom made applications that were made when IE 6 was the latest and greatest. Now to update those to be compatible with newer versions costs money companies don't want to spend. When Microsoft decided to extend XP life they extended IE 6 because it was the default browser. They need to decide to end IE6 support or companies have no reason to update.

    Now that sites are making it so IE 6 can't even access them, or in a minimal function, it's even more incentive to keep it in a company as well.
     
  3. dpeters11

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    We tried going to IE8 on our client systems, but our payroll company's employee self service site (where they can look at paystubs, check their available PTO etc) has scripts that still aren't IE8 compatible.

    And our payroll company isn't a small one, 75% of the Fortune 500 use them, along with about 100,000+ other companies.

    There are a few situations we have like that, but it's enough that we can't go to IE8.

    We can't force companies to go to Windows7 and IE9. Eventually, I think they'll have to. But the Government can't even do it themselves. In 2007 the IRS was still using systems from the Kennedy Administration. I know these are the big mainframes not the desktops, but still.
     
  4. Steve

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    I'm pretty sure for the reasons you stated, Microsoft has committed to supporting IE6 (along with XP) until 2014! :eek2: I suppose the silver lining is they're addressing customer needs, but I know earlier this year, Secunia was still reporting 24 unpatched IE6 vulnerabilities, so that's the black cloud.
     
  5. Hansen

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    I like IE9 in a lot of ways but one thing I miss is the standalone search box. The combined box leaves things messy when you pull down the menu to see recent websites. Hopefully, someone will come up with a hack to bring back the standalone search box.
     
  6. njblackberry

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    Windows XP extended support ends in April 2014. That's why IE6 is extended until then.
    After April 2014, no more patches for XP or IE6.

    And that's why companies should be looking at Windows 7 and IE8/9. If they are not, they have a very unpleasant surprise ahead of them.
     
  7. LarryFlowers

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    A lot of companies got an unpleasant surprise when their XP SP2 machines stop receiving patches in July. Lot of scrambling to install SP3 which tells you just how woefully inadequate IT is in even large corporations.

    Microsoft has made it almost absurdly easy for IT to adopt Windows 7 and still use IE6 & IE8 or IE9 on a machine. I have timed it and I can setup up virtual XP and make IE6 available in the Windows 7 program menu so that a user doesn't even have to start the virtual machine in around 15 minutes. Microsoft provides the XP license for FREE.

    This eliminates the IE6 excuse for anyone who truly wants to move to 7.

    I think the biggest obstacle right now is pure economics. Windows 7 is arriving in the corporate marketplace as a product of attrition... when PC's or laptops are replaced they are Windows 7 machines by default. This actually tends to accelerate the adoption of Windows 7 after IT guys and their money people see the benefits.

    I recently had a client experience a break in and they had to replace 10 machines. All came in as Windows 7. All had to have IE6, accomplished thru Virtual XP. After less than 60 days I received an inquiry as to the cost of migrating all their machines to Windows 7. The resident IT guy clearly saw the benefits to him and both the CEO & CFO received replacement machines and liked them. They have decides to move half of their remaining machines to Windows 7 in October and the remainder in December.

    Momentum is building in Microsofts favor. Traditionally, larger IT departments don't move to a new OS until SP1 is released, which should happen in the first quarter. The SP1 for Windows 7 though will contain no surprises, it is basically a roll-up.

    Another factor that is starting to rear its extremely ugly head is the impact of drastically slashed IT expenditures. After 2 years of this economic mess, corporate and even small business IT infrastructure is starting to show the strain of poor maintenance, extended usage cycles and ignored upgrades.
     
  8. mystic7

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    It's still buggy and a bit aggravating. You see this thing we type our comments into? Doesn't work properly all the time, for one thing. Also, some quicktime audio doesn't display properly and can't be played. It's not as easy to clear cache, temp files, browsing history as it is in IE8. I wanted to like IE9 for the HTML5 but I had to get rid of it for now.
     
  9. njblackberry

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    Larry - tell me about it. Fighting (like crazy) to keep Office 2010 in the 2011 budget.

    XP SP3 wasn't a real problem - we knew about it, and pushed it out globally over several weekend. Not an issue.

    I refuse (and it is my call) to allow XP to be run under Win 7 - that is a BAD solution as people will be spinning up their own virtual machines, with no AV, firewall or patching. A bad idea. If you need IE6, we can supply it via Citrix.

    Nonetheless, I like IE9 :)
     
  10. naijai

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    I like IE9 so far but miss the status bar at the bottom of the screen and the fact that the address bar keps everything in the history including ad pages that are blank
     
  11. LarryFlowers

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    Right click on the top bar on the screen and you can add the status bar back to your screen.

    Larry
     
  12. dpeters11

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    Why do I get that funny feeling that the install of SP1 will also install IE9 automatically?
     
  14. naijai

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    Thanks for the help
     
  15. LarryFlowers

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    More likely IE9 will be offered during the SP1 installation much as IE8 was offered. Due to corporate browser applications, browser upgrades are rarely required except when an OS changes.

    Windows 7 SP1 is NOT going to contain any feature changes. It is strictly a roll up of existing fixes. SP1 will almost be a psychological Service Pack designed to accomplish to things.. provide IT managers with a tool to simplify Windows 7 installs and provide the "trigger" to begin the corporate upgrades.
     
  16. dpeters11

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    Ok, so looks like I need to retract my statement. Microsoft did say it would require SP1. But now they are saying that it needs certain fixes that can be done individually, and it will install them if necessary. It will require a reboot if it has to install them.

    As for SP1 being more of a "psychological" service pack, is this strictly true? I thought there were some hotfixes that it will provide that either aren't publicly available, or are available as a manual (not in Windows Update) that hasn't gone through regression testing.
     

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