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Installation Nightmare

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by bartendress, Oct 8, 2007.

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  1. MSoper72

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    I don't believe it. Cause there is a way to use the 622 and the 722 as a dual mode tuner for 1 tv. If your HDtv has picture in picture or not, it will still work. My brother has one at his job. It is setup that way, and yes, it is a Dish VIP722. I've seen it and how it is all connected.
     
  2. MSoper72

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    There is a promotion for customers who have a DVR to get the $5.99 dvr service fees waived. I'm on that promotion special and I do not pay the extra $5.99 dvr fee. So its something to think about along the way. I pay 59.99 for the AT250 Program Pack and my local channels. If I choose to add any of the HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, and Stars. Its only $10.00 extra to add them.
     
  3. HobbyTalk

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    Interesting, I have my 622 hooked up to only one tv and it was installed that way.
     
  4. MSoper72

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    I would not be surprised cause my upgrade install was cancelled 4 times before it was fixed by the ceo; who helped me out. :D
     
  5. FastNOC

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    I said in my post it's possible. but according to E* they will not allow you to purchase the special package and hook the 722 up to only one TV. it's used for a two tv system. That might be different if you only have one TV, i don't know. That's according to both the CSR I spoke to and the installer.

    Second, the HDTV is only usable on one of the tuners if you're using it in dual mode. So the second TV ONLY uses SD


    My guess is it's only done this way in this special package offer (the way i explained above).
     
  6. MSoper72

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    I understand. However, I would not trust the csr and some of the installers. I have seen 1 of them do a dual tuner on 1 HDtv. Plus, if I'm correct, I've seen the option in the setup menu for 2 tv's or for 1 tv. Plus, with the DPP44 switch. They use a splitter for the 2 satellite inputs and I would be using both of the rca output jacks and/or a hdmi output jack. If you could, take a picture of your DVR from the back and I'll see if its hooked up correctly from how my brothers' job DVR is connected.
     
  7. FastNOC

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    I'm familiar with how they work. I'm also familiar that they DO have the option to run as single or dual TV units. But in dual mode the only TV that recieves HDTV is the first. So the second tuner isn't HDTV for whatever reason. sounds a bit cheezy to me to do that. but that's the way it works.

    My point is the E* package assumes you'll use that DVR for two TVs and it's one reason it's cheap.
     
  8. MSoper72

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    True, however, I would not be using the coax cable connection, but either the rca or the hdmi connection.
     
  9. FastNOC

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    The 722 doesn't have an HDMI port, it has an eSata port which looks a little like HDMI and i don't believe you can run HDTV with coax can you?

    Hmmm.... Which just made me realize something. The tuner does have dual hdtv tuners. it has to. but since hdtv can't be run through coax that's why the second tv can't be hdtv.
     
  10. MSoper72

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    I got on the E* website and viewed the back of the Vip722. It does have a hdmi connection. Plus, it has the rca HDtv connection as well. So either way, it will allow you to do dual mode in HD on 1 HDtv. Anyway, when I get mine in. I'm going to double check with my brothers' job Vip722 to make sure mine is connected the same way.
     
  11. FastNOC

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    No you're right. I was thinking of another component piece I have. it does in fact have an HDMI port.

    Sorry for the mistake.

    But yes, it does let you do HDTV on ONE tv. but the second tv that uses it is SD only
     
  12. bartendress

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    Wow. My first thread has taken on a life of its own. I feel such the proud parent. LOL

    So... the more time I spent clicking around dbstalk.com and reading various threads, the more paranoid I became about:
    A) the existing coax run being RG6 cable or some lesser crap and,
    B) whether or not I'd end up with a dish that really will need two coax leads.

    Granted the DPP only uses one RG6 line, but if the installer shows with something lesser, and I only have one RG6 run, I'm kinda screwed. SO... I ran to Radio Shack at lunch and grabbed a couple of 4' RG6 coax lines.

    I just finished pulling a new coax line to replace the existing run AND I jury-rigged a parallel RG6 run. Now... if there's no switch (built in or installer provided), I can handle two coax feeds from the dish OR a single feed from the dish with a spare coax run for use with an OTA HD antenna.

    I'm glad I found this site. I've learned enough to make me either a smart consumer... or dangerous. Time will tell.
     
  13. MSoper72

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    Congrats on being the proud parent!! :D

    If you need a DPP44 switch. I have an extra one that I could give to you. Unless you want to buy it from me?
     
  14. MSoper72

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    No problem. Just don't let the csr and technicians try to fool you. We are smarter than the average bear.

    Aye Boo Boo.. :lol:
     
  15. bartendress

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    Thanks for the offer. I'd like to think that the installer would have DPP44's, diplexers, u-bolts, etc. in preparation for the variety of installs he/she would see.

    Did anyone ever agree on whether you get HD on both feeds using the 722 in single mode? IOW: If I'm watching my Bengals lose in HD while recording an episode of Family Guy (which program is funnier than the other I'll leave to interpretation)... is my recording going to be HD or SD?
     
  16. MSoper72

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    True, the technician should have all the equipment on his/her truck with them. Including RG6 cables, and etc.
    As for the DPP44 switch. I'll just put it on ebay. :D


    The show you are recording should be in HD unless the station you are recording it from is not in HD.

    Tv 2 output would be in SD though.
     
  17. bartendress

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    So, like my Time/Warner 8300HD, if I'm watching HD and recording HD it's all good?


    /ignorance
     
  18. BNUMM

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    Why should the installer carry DPP 4x4 switches or U-Bolts? The DPP 4X4 switches are expensive (about $170.00) so an installer is not going to have one unless he knows for sure he is going to use it. As for U-bolts there is no Dish approved use for them.
     
  19. MSoper72

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    Correct :D
     
  20. bartendress

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    That's most likely the best news I've had all day.

    Sometimes all the tech-talk turns to cross-talk and it makes my head hurt.
     
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