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Iran Leader: Israel Will Be Annihilated

Discussion in 'The OT' started by tomcrown1, Apr 14, 2006.

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  1. Apr 16, 2006 #41 of 202
    wisdom

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    Are THEY liberal? It's just an observation of you towing the party line. I'm sure you think the same about me as a conservative.

    Not dodging the question at all. How much American blood...as much as it take to win. How much wealth...my tax dollars are paying for it so about 26%. How much of mine...I'm a web designer, not a soldier. Should a draft happen, I would go. If I were a soldier I would go, as that would be my job. What do you think soldiers do? Guard Area 51?
     
  2. Apr 16, 2006 #42 of 202
    Opynion

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    There should be exceptions, and the leader of Iran
    is like a bad illness that has to be taken care off, the medicine might be disgusting, but the remedy has to be used, in order to cure the his problem, unless you want that illness to grow, until 12,000,000 people get the infection and have to be taken care off also; the U.S. should send the doctors with the medicine, to the leader of Iran, in a stealth. :rolleyes:
     
  3. Apr 16, 2006 #43 of 202
    wisdom

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    Who makes the exception? Us or them? What if the exception is made for religious reasons, such as Islam killing an infidel? No, there should be no exceptions because once we start down that road, there is no turning back.
     
  4. Apr 16, 2006 #44 of 202
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    And once Iran have nukes, there will also be no turning back, after all, it's only the life of one man now, and not 12,000,000 people later.
     
  5. Apr 16, 2006 #45 of 202
    wisdom

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    Here's the thing though, they are coming in late in the game. Nearly everyone has nukes already. Do they really want to be a hole in the ground? I think a lot of this is just hype and posturing from the Iranians. Once they realize that everyones nukes are pointed at them, they'll knock it down a notch. Heard from North Korea in awhile? The Cold War was a perfect example, just because a country has nukes it doesn't mean that they'll use them. As I said before, nuclear weapons work better as a deterrent than as a weapon. No one has used them on another since the 1940's and that was us.
     
  6. Apr 16, 2006 #46 of 202
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    If you review my posts, you'll find I support things based on independent thought, not towing any party line. Sometimes I seem liberal, sometimes conservative.

    LBJ appeared to have the same belief. I expect if American casualties approached the population of Israel, people would become a bit disillusioned (probably long before that point).

    I have a good idea of what soldiers do - maybe better than you. Saying that you would join the fray only if you were forced doesn't enhance the credibility of your commitment.
     
  7. Apr 16, 2006 #47 of 202
    wisdom

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    OK, I'll give you that, but I'll be watching.

    Well, if you can keep the naysayers shut. We can win faster, thus saving lives.

    It certainly does. If my country calls for me, I will answer. Not run to Canada like your people. Oops, I forgot that your not a liberal *chuckle*.

    So basically what your saying is, that if the government elected by the people, doesn't agree with your opinion, you'd not be willing to protect that government. What kind of government are you looking for? Good thing people didn't think like that during WW2.
     
  8. Apr 16, 2006 #48 of 202
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    You mean like we did to Germany and Japan?
     
  9. Apr 16, 2006 #49 of 202
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    Yes! ...at least the leader of Iran doesn't care what happens to his country, after they nuke Israel, he has his mind made up already, he thinks that in his after life, according to his religion, that he will be screwing all the virgins he has coming to him. :cool:
    If Muhammad told them that in the koran, he lied like a dog to them! :rolleyes: :lol:

    That is just what you and others think. :scratch:

    The leader of N.K. is not as crazy as the leader of Iran, he doesn't think he'll have virgins to screw, after he's dead. :lol:

    But sooner or later someone will use them, and we don't want Iran to be the first to start nuke-ing.
    Seems to me, that someone just wants to give Iran the opportunity to become a bully with a chance to nuke first. ;)
     
  10. Apr 16, 2006 #50 of 202
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    Those countries had it coming, :rolleyes: they were asking for it! :cool:
     
  11. Apr 16, 2006 #51 of 202
    Stewart Vernon

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    If people who post here would just stop for a minute... remove "Iran" and replace it with "Israel" and remove "America" and replace it with "Iran"... they would notice they are pretty much saying the same things as they accuse the "crazy Islamic" people of saying.

    And we wonder why there isn't peace in the world.

    Everyone wants to blow up everybody to "solve" problems. :(
     
  12. Apr 16, 2006 #52 of 202
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    The Islamic crazies don't settle differences peacefully like most of the world. Their goal is kill Jews and Americans. I think they have demonstrated that.

    I don't think I have ever heard the leader of Israel say "Iran will be wiped off the face of the Earth".....Have you?

    The Islamic crazies are provoking a fight....and their people will lose.
     
  13. Apr 16, 2006 #53 of 202
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    Iran is a bully that picks on us? :lol:
    Iran is a little fly that buzzes around and annoys us. You don't use a nuke to take care of a fly. In fact, honey might work better with some of the flies bothing us instead of trying to swat them all. I didn't say anything about waiting until Iran killed people before we did anything, but you might want to wait until your neighbor actually bought a gun before you worried about him using a gun.
     
  14. Apr 16, 2006 #54 of 202
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    But I have heard you say they should all be wiped off the face of the earth. Thank goodness the decisions for this kind of action don't depend on you. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Apr 16, 2006 #55 of 202
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    Iran says Israel will be wiped out BECAUSE THEY EXIST...I believe Iran should be knocked out because they are a threat to the rest of the non-Islamic world.

    Do you deny that the Iranian leaders are crazy? and don't give me that "whose standard" crap. I'm talking about your definition of crazy.
     
  16. Apr 16, 2006 #56 of 202
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    Why do they deserve more land?
     
  17. Apr 16, 2006 #57 of 202
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    A lot of the things said by some of our leaders can certainly be considered a threat to other nations.

    I don't know any of the Iranian leaders personally. I have not had a chance to talk with them in a one on one situation. The leader of Iran is certain operating with a mistaken view of history, but a lot of people have a revisionist view of history, and a lot of leaders tell their people what they want to hear. I have a degree in psychology and counseling. A diagnosis of "crazy" can be made by anyone, about anyone with whom you disagree. I have been called crazy by people on this forum. A diagnosis of a psychological disorder, however, is generally much more difficult to make accurately. Even many doctors, including psychiatrists, make inaccurate diagnosis, therefore prescribing the wrong medication and masking the true disorder for sometimes years. Crazy is one thing, "insane" is quite another. Just because the guy says he doesn't believe in the holocaust is not really an indication that he suffers from a mental illness that has put him out of touch with reality on a daily basis. Some people here have denied many facts and continue to spout claims that have no basis in reality. Yet they claim to hold down jobs and remain productive members of their communities. :lol:
     
  18. Apr 16, 2006 #58 of 202
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    I am an RN with several years of experience in charge of psychiatric units. My contributions to this thread now ends.
     
  19. Apr 16, 2006 #59 of 202
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    Peacefully eh?

    The history of the world, especially the "western world" is filled with violent conflict. In fact in the greater scheme of things over the last few centuries at least, Arabs and Islam arguably have been involved in LESS violent conflict than their western counterparts.

    The history of our great nation alone is a history of settling differences by use of military force. Not including major wars or clandestine operations or negotiated military bases, the USA has intervened(landed troops on or bombed foreign soil with or without invitation) and average of every 2-3 years since our founding. In the last few decades alone we have Lebanon, Granada, Panama, Haiti(several times), Somalia, Bosnia, Yugoslavia and Iraq(remember the "no-fly zones"). And during that time of course, at least three "major" wars, Iraq twice and Afganistan. I'm sure I've left somebody out but it's so hard to keep track!

    This is not to say that none of these actions were justified. But it would certainly indicate we don't always strive to "settle differences peacefully". Every 2-3 years over the course of a couple hundred years shows that we don't wait too long before considering and USING the "military option".

    I don't know what your definition of "settle differences peacefully" is. But sending heavily armed military units to foreign lands to point guns at people to get them to do what we want doesn't qualify for my definition anyway.

    This is also not to say that other nations don't do the same to a lesser or greater extent(usually lesser):(. They do and they have. Again, check history! But that a particular group might threaten or actually use violence against others to "settle differences" is nothing new and certainly not unique to Arabs/Islam. And our response is all too predictible also. We respond in kind with the threat of violence and don't wait to long to actually use it.
     
  20. Apr 16, 2006 #60 of 202
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    Thank goodness. :D
     
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