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Is anyone expecting an updated GUI?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by ejjames, Nov 18, 2010.

  1. Nov 18, 2010 #1 of 112
    ejjames

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    I don't necessarily mean an HD version (although that would be great.) Even something with some depth to the image, kind of the way the instant score guide is done.

    The current one is so flat and drab. I think we should be far past this at the end of 2011.
     
  2. Nov 18, 2010 #2 of 112
    hdtvfan0001

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    I don't think you'll see any major UI change until some time in 2011.
     
  3. Nov 18, 2010 #3 of 112
    matt

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    I don't think most receivers out there will handle a better GUI. Think how slow the guide is on an HR21. What if it had to process twice as much information to display in HD every time you hit channel down? It would be awful!
     
  4. Nov 18, 2010 #4 of 112
    hdtvfan0001

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    Not sure that's the motivation or reason behind any change or limitations. Code can be written that can handle different resolutions...and the video already handles HD...more than likely, its more a situation where the actual re-write and related testing is simply not high on the "to do" list.
     
  5. Nov 18, 2010 #5 of 112
    Church AV Guy

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    I would MUCH rather they put their time into fixing the software so the DVRs are more reliable, than working on a new GUI.
     
  6. Nov 18, 2010 #6 of 112
    hdtvfan0001

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    Reliable? Those kind of open-ended "observations" are always interesting.

    My HD DVRs have over 40 programs scheduled using a number of series links each week, play them all back perfectly, and have never missed a one.

    Live programs and CinemaNow content also has been recorded here repeatedly without 1 single failure.

    Wonder just how much more reliable they could be....hmmm...

    As for the User Interface...one would think people were watching the guide and menus more than shows based on the attention the UI gets.
     
  7. Nov 19, 2010 #7 of 112
    CCarncross

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    People keep posting about the "poor reliability" etc., etc. All things considered, my DVR's rarely ever miss a recording....are we talking about a DVR going bad here or recording reliably? Its a piece of electronics equipment, they will fail, some will fail early, some will run for years, thats just the way electronics work, if someone thinks some company can come up with a way to make affordable electronics that never fail, have at it....
     
  8. Nov 19, 2010 #8 of 112
    TomCat

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    I think the building blocks of the current GUI are probably ROM-based. Maybe not. But if so, that would imply that a new GUI would need a new model of receiver/DVR, and would not be an uploadable feature to existing receivers/DVRs. Maybe you could skin it after the fact, but I expect that to be unlikely.

    While on that subject, if they DO create a new GUI, it should have custom skins so those of us with multiple DVRs in one room could configure them and so visually tell them apart more easily. (hint, hint)
     
  9. Nov 19, 2010 #9 of 112
    TomCat

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    Can't find one syllable to disagree with here.

    If you are recording 40 events a week and you miss about 4 programs a year, that is still pretty reliable, about 99.8% reliable (especially compared to a DISH DVR, which misses or deletes about 3 to 4 times that many). That was about the reliability of the HR10-250 in my experience over the last 6 years, and the current HR2x seems to have actually surpassed that. I missed about 4 shows one night this fall and needed a reboot, but that is pretty rare, maybe once a year or every 2 years. Besides, I have a back up recording, which means reliability then moves to more like 99.999%.

    But as any election year will show you, everybody loves to complain about everything, even if it really isn't an issue anymore.
     
  10. Nov 19, 2010 #10 of 112
    inkahauts

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    Considering they have already changed the gui once in the past, I would tend to disagree with your statement on this one....
     
  11. Nov 19, 2010 #11 of 112
    inkahauts

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    I expect a gui change, a big one.. But I don't expect it tomorrow.. I think they have a few other things they are going to change first....
     
  12. Nov 20, 2010 #12 of 112
    Rich

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    I haven't missed a program in years either. Don't see how much more dependable they could be either, but missing recordings is only one narrow indication of how reliable some models are. I've weeded out all the unreliable models over the years.

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  13. Nov 20, 2010 #13 of 112
    Rich

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    I expected it last year. We'll probably see it about the time we see the new TiVo. Which doesn't bode well for a new HD GUI. :lol:

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  14. Nov 20, 2010 #14 of 112
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    The D* GUI is like Star Trek compared to the Scientific Atlanta cable box (Cablevision) my in-laws have. Sometimes you need to be reminded of just how good D*'s GUI is.

    That said, I hope they continue to work to improve the GUI. The competition isn't standing still (well, maybe Cablevision is!)
     
  15. Nov 20, 2010 #15 of 112
    TomCat

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    I had the first HD DVR+ the Ironwood installer had ever seen, August 2006(?) on day one (it had shipped in only one or two other markets so far and been out there only a week or two, IIRC) and I have never seen any change to the GUI, unless is was so insignificant to not notice. (of course I was expecting a HR10 and was less than thrilled about being an early adopter of the HD DVR+, which turned out to be right for lots of very good reasons)

    Did you wake up one day and it was different?

    Minor changes to what area has what color are one thing, and a wholesale change in design or moving from an SD to a HD GUI is something quite different. I stand by my statement. I don't think you will ever see a change on older DVRs. Bet the farm.
     
  16. Nov 20, 2010 #16 of 112
    TomCat

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    So, and I have to agree, it's good from a comparative standpoint (although not as good as the 1998 Tivo), but sorely lacking in what is actually possible in GUI design. That gap alone would tend to make one think that someone at DTV might think it was a worthwhile thing to attempt.
     
  17. Nov 20, 2010 #17 of 112
    Davenlr

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    Since they have the 4:3/16:9 switch in the display setup, I dont see why they couldnt have both GUIs, and let the use select depending on what type of set its connected to.
     
  18. Nov 21, 2010 #18 of 112
    Rich

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    I don't mind it, and I agree with you about the lack of changes in it. I think there have been minor changes but the idea about changing it to an HD GUI seems to elude them. And they don't care much about what we like and dislike.

    Rich
     
  19. Nov 21, 2010 #19 of 112
    BattleScott

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    This topic seems to pop up every so often. If I recall correctly, the Broadcom chips in the Pre-HR24s can't render an "HD" GUI so any changes will likely be minimal.
     
  20. Nov 21, 2010 #20 of 112
    Rich

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    I've been told that the HD GUI is possible and coming. Who told me? That's in the "vault", but it was someone whose opinion can be trusted. (That wasn't a knock on you.)

    Rich
     

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