Is getting the 4K upgrade worth it?

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  1. dreadlk

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    Hmmm so you kind of did what I did and just made a choice between the two. I personally find that a traditional home theater setup is just not compatible with HDR. You need a room that has a good amount of ambient light.
     
  2. jimmie57

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    I have 2 picture settings setup. 1 for 4k and the other one for all else. My TV currently only gets 4k thru the wi-fi on You Tube. So when I tell my remote to "YouTube", it changes to the wi-fi connection and changes the settings to the 4k that I have set up with HDR turned Off.
     
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    Not sure I understand. On all of my 4k tvs they only turn on HDR when their is an HDR signal. If it is a 4k non- HDR signal then HDR is not on. I probably just don’t understand what you are saying...or maybe your tvs are just different than mine.
     
  4. mjwagner

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    Funny how different folks like different things. I find HDR to look the best in my very dark home theater room. I did have my 4k HDR laser projector (Optoma UHZ65) in my home theater professionally calibrated so that my have made a difference.
     
  5. Delroy E Walleye

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    I've got a C6, and when HDR is present the picture settings can be changed and retained, as if it's a separate input. Absolutely no need to change settings between HDR and non HDR content.

    Real bummer if they've done away with that! (I'd just assumed all sets were supposed to behave this way...)
     
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  6. dreadlk

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    I doubt it. I use to calibrate TV's as part of my job. These LG 7 series OLEDs and upward come very well calibrated straight out of the box. You can do some minor tweeks but it's pretty good even without it. The 6 series was horrible and needed a lot of calibration.
     
  7. dreadlk

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    Thanks I will look into that. Maybe there is something I missed.
    So far it retains the settings no matter the content on that input.
    Maybe there is a option in the menus that I missed. These newer TV's have so many things in the menus.
     
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  8. mjwagner

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    Sorry, you probably just mis-read my post. I was talking about my Optoma UHZ65 projector. That thing most definitely needed calibration...LOL. I do also have an LG (LG OLED65B7A) which I calibrated myself but honestly, as you indicated, was really very good OOTB and only needed some minor adjustments.
    All that being said, my point was that this is all really dependent on personal likes/dislikes. As I said, I personally prefer HDR even in my dark home theater environment and don't find it too bright at all. Others, like yourself, find it too bright. It's all good and their are no right or wrong answers just personal taste.
     
  9. mjwagner

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    Both my LG B7 and my Optoma UHZ65 projector work that way as well. HDR settings are completely separate from non-HDR settings.
     
  10. slice1900

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    The maximum brightness of a projector is less than the maximum brightness of an OLED which is less than the maximum brightness of an LCD/LED. No one is going to want to sit in a dark room and have HDR drive brightness up to 1000+ nits in a bright scene, it will hurt your eyes and make you squint. If you watch in a dark room you are going to want to adjust the HDR range so the "max brightness" is less than what an OLED or certainly an LED is capable of. If you watch in a room filled with sunlight you are going to want to adjust it so the minimum (non-black) brightness is brighter than the minimum brightness it is capable of (a little more tricky to get "right" there since it isn't filled with sunlight at night...)
     
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    Yes, that’s why you adjust HDR mode for the specific display and room when you calibrate separately from non-HDR 4k mode. Perhaps I didn’t make myself clear on that point, sorry.
     
  12. Delroy E Walleye

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    I do know it took me a little while before I realized I needed to activate the deep color setting for the HDMI input to get HDR up and running.

    The only other thing I can think of (and that I can't check) is if HLG HDR is handled differently than HDR 10 of the UHD BluRays in these sets, but that info should be available somewhere...
     
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    Z_finigan

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    Yeah it does.
    I'm using a c band satellite. And I can say. There are only about 20 stations that are 4k.
    I think direct TV is not telling the truth about what they are saying is 4k.
    Or if it is really 4k
    Because if there was more to offer. We would see it. But then again. The master feeds we get. Probably look like there 4k.

    But I can say. The only other place I've seen video that good is. On demo. And c band NASA and UHD channel
     
  14. Feb 3, 2019 #134 of 151
    TV_Guy

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    Seems like a classic which came first chicken or the egg scenario. I can't see 4k making significant inroads until ATSC 3.0 is widely deployed. Probably similar to HDTV deployment. If broadcast OTA is offering 4k then cable and (if it's still around) satellite will have to deploy 4k to remain competitive. The only thing that could speed it up is OTT services but since so much of their programming is from OTA and cable it might not be a huge factor.
     
  15. Feb 3, 2019 #135 of 151
    TheRatPatrol

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    Which channels are in 4K?
     
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    P Smith

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    I would guess these are backhauls
     
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    slice1900

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    There are some "made for 4K" channels that companies like SES offer, hoping to get cable/satellite companies interested in carrying them. They aren't anything anyone has ever heard of before, and only exist because "4K" which IMHO is a stupid reason to have a channel.

    Channels
     
  18. Feb 3, 2019 #138 of 151
    James Long

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    It would be a challenge to find 20 4K stations on C band.
    Nasa TV is the only 4K on Galaxy 13/Horizons 1 at 127.0°W
    There are 9 UHD channels, NASA and two SES promo channels on SES 1 at 101.0°W - NASA is the only name I recognize.

    Backhauls and wild feeds would increase that number - but those are not channels.
     
  19. Feb 3, 2019 #139 of 151
    P Smith

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    Oops! No adult channel(s) … no, the UHD is not coming to masses ! :D
     
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    dtv757

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    Kinda reminds me of voom...

    I saw dish and charter are sponsors ..

    I think they had an agreement with fios years ago ...

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