Is getting the 4K upgrade worth it?

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  1. Feb 4, 2019 #141 of 151
    longhorn23

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    I personally want directv to pick up those SES 4k channels. The more 4k channels, the better in my opinion.
     
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  3. Feb 4, 2019 #143 of 151
    tsduke

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    I agree, 4k ch 104 is already old and now I rarely look to see what's on there. Sport coverage on 106 is dismal at best for me. I'm not a soccor or NBA fan.
     
  4. Feb 4, 2019 #144 of 151
    slice1900

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    What's Directv's incentive to do so? This would cost them a fair amount of money, over and above whatever SES charges, for all the encoders and other equipment required for them in the broadcast center.

    Some of the people who already have 4K on Directv might like having a few more options, but no way having that lineup of crap channels no one has ever heard of is going to bring new subscribers to Directv. If they can't bring in enough new subscribers to pay for them, they'd lose money by doing so - and once you carry a channel it is a lot harder to get rid of it later than to never carry it at all.
     
  5. Feb 4, 2019 #145 of 151
    dreadlk

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    I am starting to see a pattern that is kind of like the old days.
    I remember when Smithsonian channel started up they had very little HD content and they repeated the same shows over and over. I noticed on the 4K channel 104 they are showing some shows that are also being shown on Smithsonian in 1080P. I wonder if they are collaborating on a bigger project? Directv helps build up content in 4K with Smithsonian channels help and eventually Smithsonian goes 4K and becomes the first true 4K content provider.
     
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    Can you stream NASA 4K somewhere?
     
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    I dont know about Stream but my local cable company Armstrong carries it as a Full Time 4K channel. Boring as hell but looks good lol
     
  9. Feb 4, 2019 #149 of 151
    mjwagner

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    The reality is that currently if you are looking for 4k content D just isn’t where the action is. Most of the current NetFlix and Amazon Prime shows are in 4k HDR/DV. Most recent movies on VUDU are in 4k HDR/DV many with ATMOS sound for $5.99. And you don’t need anything more special in terms of equipment than a $39.99 streaming device. Certainly no contracts or a “Genie” that doesn’t even actually do 4k unless you also have an additional “client” box. My move to 4k was one of the things that got me to ditch D completely. It’s not really D’s fault as there just isn’t very much in terms of live 4k content. If you want to watch the little bit that is there than D is a great choice. At some point when the live 4k content is there it might be a selling point for them...right now not so much.
     
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    Man it must be really bad if Directv has not added it to the lineup. It's kind of sad about 4K, it has so much potential but the Bandwidth of really good 4K is probably a barrier that will not be broken for a long time, if ever. After seeing the CES videos and noticing that a lot of companies were using the Movie Pacific Rim to showcase 8K TV's doing up scaling, I decided to get a copy. It's 68GB in compressed UHD HDR format. I calculated that out at 9.6MBPS of data. That's just about double the speed I have in my house.

    BTW I was looking at my PM box and noticed a PM from 9 years ago from Stuart Sweet in which he informed me that my post about the future death of 3D TV on Directv was too negative and was therefore deleted.:p

    This time I think 4K will survive but I am not hopeful of seeing a lot of really good 4K content and the time scale on this may be another 10 years to get to the point that most content is in some kind of low BW 4K.
     
  11. Feb 5, 2019 #151 of 151
    slice1900

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    9.6 MBps = 77 Mbps. That's a VERY high bit rate, especially for something that is precompressed, about 5x what Netflix delivers (they require 25 Mbps, but people who have measured it says it averages about 15.4 Mbps)

    The equivalent for a cable/satellite broadcast that has to encode on the fly (much less efficient) is probably 150 Mbps. Yeah, we'll never see that!
     

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