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Is NFL Sunday Ticket in 4K?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by DolphinGirl, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. WestDC

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    I would agree (however) the Sunday Ticket Contract D* has would make a dual broadcast possible that could happen - Only time will tell for now we can wait - you could also look for the pre-season games (that) no one really cares much for as they would count as well for dreamers. LOL!
     
  2. JoeTheDragon

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    With the loss NFL ST right in Canada on cable and sat will Directv end up feeding the Caribbean cable systems the NFL ST feeds or they lose the right as well the Caribbean cable systems have an odd mix of us and Canada channels + the US super stations (the OTA feeds).
     
  3. CTJon

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    As several have attempted to explain - there are legal issues with ownership of broadcast station (NBC, PBS, CBS, FOX, ABC) content. The right to broadcast to anyone by any means what is broadcast on those stations is owned by the local provider NBC can't decide to broadcast to you in a certain area what they want to via DTV or cable etc. different content than is owned by the local broadcast station. So if a game is on CBS you get what the local CBS station is showing. Local stations paid a lot of money and franchise fees for this right. Doesn't apply to ESPN or NFL network because they aren't broadcast stations. Also if CBS was doing 4K but your local station didn't have capability you wouldn't get 4k.
    Probably, not great in today's world but it is what is covered by franchise and other laws.
     
  4. slice1900

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    Even if/when your local CBS station does have 4K capability, you won't get it in 4K on Directv.
     
  5. dcowboy7

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    Waiting for 8k.
     
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  6. boukengreen

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    Why stop at 8K when you can go to 16K. At what point is enough enough
     
  7. dcowboy7

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    Not sure but i thing i read that beyond 8k the eye cant really tell the difference anymore even if its 128k.
     
  8. compnurd

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    All this talk about local broadcast rights as I watch the CBS local coverage in 4K on channel 106
     
  9. slice1900

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    Golf is very different from the NFL in terms of how much the local broadcasters are making off the commercials.

    There are also a pretty small number of Directv subscribers who have 4K right now, something that is acceptable to them with losing a tiny portion of a small audience would be a different story if it were the NFL and especially if 4K became more widespread.
     
  10. compnurd

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    Let's just say we could see some 4K on thanksgiving day!
     
  11. boukengreen

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    I don't know my post was sarcastic in nature
     
  12. CTJon

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    I don't have 4K but I believe that the 4K coverage isn't the same as the regular coverage on CBS. If it is like the Masters etc. they do special certain hole and other type certain coverage. They don't show the whole event as they do on CBS. Again I don't have 4K so I can't check but that has been the way they have done other sports - special coverage and not the general coverage.
     
  13. compnurd

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    This was full CBS coverage
     
  14. TheRatPatrol

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    I thought it was only holes 16, 17, and 18?
     
  15. compnurd

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    I think that was the masters
     
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  17. compnurd

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    Yup. Just turned it on and doing at least right now the CBS coverage still
     
  18. SamC

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    The golf was NOT the "CBS coverage". DirecTV pays for three extra channels (in which they will put the CBS, Fox, or NBC score bugs and lesser talents from the main network's benches) and which will show the same commercials as the main network. These are two "featured group" channels which follow a particular group from 1-18 and one "featured holes" channel which will follow everybody as they come by three or four holes. This channel, and NOT the main network feed will be simulcast in 4K on certain golf weekends, including the majors. The only part of the main coverage that is shown in 4K is (sometimes) the trophy presentation. The channel shown this week at the PGA Championship was called "The Green Mile Channel" after the nickname for the three hole stretch which was ALL that channel covered.

    This is for the simple reason that they currently only have 4K equipment enough to cover 3 or 4 holes, not the complete tournament.

    I would say that, in 19 or 20, CBS will probably produce the entire Masters in 4K, but any more than that is further off than that.
     
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  19. slice1900

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    Golf would be one of the more difficult sports to do fully in 4K because of the size of the playing field and therefore number of cameras, and all the handheld cameras (though I suppose they could do the roving shots in 1080 and upconvert) Other than Augusta National where they play the Masters, none of the camera positions on the course are fixed, they erect the towers / bring in the cranes / run the cabling on the ground for the week and then tear everything down after the tournament. The number of camera locations that are required depends on the course - ones with a lot of trees / hills generally need more cameras for adequate coverage.

    NFL and major college stadiums have standard positions where the cameras always go, all the wiring is permanent and there's an on-site control room. While that's not always good (the wiring for HD can't handle 4K since production equipment uses SDI, so it will need to be replaced and the control room would need some upgrades as well) once it is done they can just bring their cameras and truck, plug in and they're ready to go.
     
  20. wilbur_the_goose

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    From what I've seen, if you want quality 4K programming, move to Canada. Rogers Cable seems to be the King of 4K.
     

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