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Is the Direct Tv hr 20 hd dvr truelly better than my old Hughes HD tivo 10-250

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by eddy13, Jun 10, 2007.

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  1. eddy13

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    Also my other question is I have seen numerous bad reviews for this new direct tv hd receiver... Ive heard alot of locking up , freezing and people having to go through 3 or 4 swap outs.. Is this receiver better or worse than the hughes hd tivo receiver that I currently have...
    Ive heard alot of problems with this new direct tv hd dvr.. I currently called today and ordered my upgrade they told me tta I had to commit for 2 years.... I am moving my older hughes hd tivo to the bed room for the time beeing.... I would hate to have a faulty direct tv hd dvr...
     
  2. Drewg5

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    There has been a lot of bad things said about this system, mostly growing pains. The HR20 is D* first try at a HDDVR. Yes there have been problems, and your going to get mixed oppions even here. Some of us at this point would throw the old TiVo out the window (or sell it). Others would give anything to get there hands on the good old TiVo.

    I for one have been very pleased with my HR20-700, it has been almost flawless. I say almost becouse there have been problems, mostly in the past. The ones I have now appear to be more weather realated. I can say that I do trust the system to do what it is asked to do and get the job done. D* wants this to be the best DVR out there and has been inproveing it by leaps and bounds now.

    The GUI will take a bit to become useto from the TiVo and, I dont think meny people love the remote. Other wise I like the system. This thread should help with TiVo lag.http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=72648

    Good Luck with your new system. I hope you will be as inpressed with it as I have been.
     
  3. convem24

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    I have had an HR20 for about 3 months and my experience Drewg5, which is mostly positive. I have not had any problems. There are always small changes that are constantly made but overall the box is working well. I hope that the black HD-DVR makes a come back. I heard D* has scrapped the black version for now because of issues with the paint job. O well
     
  4. Drewg5

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    dude chill, I did not say this is a bad system. I stated both sides, and than mine. I like my HR20-700 very much. If you have a problem with that than take it up with me in a PM.
     
  5. CousCous

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    What are you talking about Drew? This guy's last post didn't seem, to me, like it warranted that reaction. Did I miss something?
     
  6. BobV

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    This is getting old. Peeps bi*ching about Tivo vs HR20 in the HR20 threads!!:nono2:
    Can you say D10 , KABOOM TIVO..:grin:
     
  7. Michael D'Angelo

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    I have had a series 2 stand alone TiVo, 4 Directv SD TiVo's and a Hr10-250 and I loved TiVo for a long time and was so mad when I heard Directv was going to stop using them at some point and was going with their own DVR's. I got my first 2 HR20's in September and had a lot of problems at first. I got another HR20 a couple of weeks ago and I am working on getting 2 more. At this point I do not miss TiVo at all and I actually like the HR20 much better.

    I have not had any major problems since about 5 months ago and very few minor problems. I believe this system may be on the way to being the best DVR ever made once they add a few things. Just my opinion everyone.
     
  8. Robert Norman

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    I have had the HDR20-100s for about a month and have several DIRECTV TIVO DVR's including the HDR10-250. I found the HDR20-100s to be easy to used and the interface to be somewhat different then the TIVO interface. Easy to learn once you understand the tricks listed on the DBSTalk forum. My unit has been rock solid and does the job for my needs. I especially like the ability to add a large external ESATA external disk drive by plugging in a cable to the back of the unit. However, I never let TIVO choose programs for me and this may have influce my thoughts.
    Mike
     
  9. JonW

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    The HR20 is usable and fairly reliable these days, but the HR10-250 was much better dealing with wishlists, series recordings, suggestions, and of course it has dual live buffers.

    Here's one example... we like to record kids shows for my 7 year old daughter, but the shows repeat too often and the recorder is basically in constant use sucking these in. So we set up a manual recording, but unfortunately these shows seem to move around often so that breaks. In addition there's no way to tell the hr20 to stop recording once it reaches the series limit. So if we tell it to keep only 5, even after it has 5, it just keeps on recording new shows and throwing away the old ones. We just want 5 shows, not the latest 5 shows.

    All of this was handled trivially with the HR10 by just clicking some thumbs ups on the shows she likes. It consumed only free space. If we wanted to watch something while it was recording a suggestion it switched over as-if it hadn't been dong anything. It worked great.

    Which isn't to say that suggestions are the only solution, but there just need to be more flexibility in how series records work. There should be an option to limit how often it records (I don't want 12 episodes of sportscenter, but I prefer the one at say 3am), and there should be an option to stop recording until an old episode is deleted.

    On the other hand, the HR20 receives the MPEG4 programming, it has become more reliable and has some nifty hardware features like support for native output and simultaneous output on all connectors, so my HR10 is dead and gone ... but not forgotten.

    The simultaneous output capability is neat if you want to hook up multiple tv's to your DVR, or you want to hook up a VCR or DVD recorder. The HR10 could only do that if you switched it first to 480i mode - which we worked around by connecting a HD matrix switch; but thanks to the new feature we can keep our two HR20's side by side and pipe the S-Video output to the other TVs in the house.
     
  10. jal

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    The TIVO HR10-250 has a valuable feature that the HR20 does not--a reliable recording feature. Since I've owned the HR10-250, I've had no trouble at all. The HR20 is prone to freeze ups, and even loses the volume if it goes into standby on an MPEG 2 Channel with my Sony LCD. Even after all of the software "fixes" since last September, the HR20 still does not function properly.

    Directv made a big mistake abandoning the reliable TIVO.
     
  11. rahchgo

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    I always like to refer people with this type of question to the "Tivo to HR20 Survival Guide" It lists that all features that you gain vs. all the features that you lose, plus some workarounds. I printed it and put it in a drawer near the remote.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=713629&postcount=1
     
  12. machavez00

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    the HR10 will be obsolete in the near future as will the H10. Once D10 & D11 are up and running and beaming down the new MPEG4 HD channels, the HR10 will be good only recording OTA HD and those few HD channels that remain MPEG2 until they are moved to the new sats . Then there will no choice but to switch to the HR20/H20 if you want HD content from D*
     
  13. GregE

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    Hi guys, my first post. Was just wondering about peoples experiences "upgrading" to the HR20 with regards to how much they are paying for it from DirecTV. I called and asked for the HR20 and new dish, lady on phone said $19.99 plus tax. Sounded good, and I was keeping my HR-10. Installer came with the H20. Called DirecTV and they offered HR20 for $199, I decided to wait.

    Is that the standard deal now, or are some getting better? Maybe worth waiting to see if they'll offer free swapouts when the new MPEG4 channels are up?
     
  14. Earl Bonovich

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    Where in the world did you hear that?
    As that is just rediculously absurd...

    Simply put, they did one production of the Black HR20's and after reviewing it, decided they want to keep it at a standard silver.
     
  15. joed32

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    If you get a bad one then just get a replacement. Also get the $5.99 protection plan so you will be worry free. I just got a bad one at CC two weeks ago it was replaced with an HR20-100 and it's working fine. No charge. My other 2 are 700s and they are good too.
     
  16. litzdog911

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    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=62089
     
  17. bidger

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    It would probably best best to just head to the last page of the thread that litzdog provided the link for, Greg, because you'll see what's currently being offered.

    Welcome, btw.
     
  18. HalfMoon

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    After 1 week without Tivo after having only Tivo for 6 or 7 years..... I say yes.

    The only things I miss about Tivo are:
    1. Dual Live Buffers.​
    2. No Suggestions.​
    3. Remote Control ergonomics.​
    Dual buffers isn't that big of a deal when you read the workarounds.

    Suggestions, well... I kinda liked finding "gems' that Tivo thought I would like... even if they were 1 in 50 programs it picked for me.

    I got used to the Peanut remote over the years, but I'll learn to get used to the new one.

    Overall, no big deal considering the fact that I gained MPEG4.

    Things I don't miss:​
    1. Waiting 2+ years for software updates that still don't update you to the features of the Series 2 receiver that had been out for YEARS.​
    2. Having a Tivo unit with non-working HDMI (3 units sent to me by Directv)​
    3. Having the Tivo randomly keep the "Press Thumbs Up to Record" stay on for an entire show after the commercial ended.​

    Cheers.​
     
  19. BobV

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    Harmony makes a few peanut remotes that will fit your needs.
    Searh for "Harmony" here and you will see all kinds of ideas.
     
  20. CousCous

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    I haven't missed a recording in months. My grandma misses them all the time with her HR10 though. Go figure.

    This myth about the HR20 missing more recordings than the Tivo units doesn't hold water.
     
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