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Is this for real? If so why is there no "First Look"?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jjschind, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. Jul 10, 2012 #81 of 129
    murpbrad

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    So would I be better off to use my local cable company for a few months since they wouldn't make me sign any kind of contract? Then, once the C31 is finally available, I could make the switch to DirecTV? Or, would I be better off going ahead and getting the HR34 with a few H25s or even an HR34, HR24, and an H25 (or 2) and just dealing with the trick play issue until the C31 comes out?
     
  2. Jul 10, 2012 #82 of 129
    inkahauts

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    That's really up to you... But something to think about might be how many rooms are you going to want to be able to watch live tv in at the same time at any given time and at that same time how many other things would you want to be recording also? If the number is four rooms and no more than five things on at a time, watching and recording combined, or under, hr34 and clients will take care of you. If its higher than that, I think you will prefer something of a mix in the long term, maybe an hr34, an hr24, and a couple clients. But you are the one who will be using all this, so I would suggest you first decide how you want to be able to view your tv in your house..
     
  3. Jul 20, 2012 #83 of 129
    Beerstalker

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    So anyone heard anything new? Been over a month since the photo leaks.
     
  4. Aug 1, 2012 #84 of 129
    jjschind

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    According to some guys at another forum, we are looking at an august deployment. Some installers are saying warehouses are currently being stocked with the c31s.
     
  5. Aug 1, 2012 #85 of 129
    Beerstalker

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    Also, according to the CSR that emailed me back DirecTV is planning on charging $6/month for every single RVU client, even though you can't use more than 3 at a time. I personally feel that this is a huge ripoff, and it's probably going to keep my parents from switching to DirecTV. If they do switch they will most likely not have a client at each TV, they will either have some TVs without DirecTV service or I might have to find a way to drive more than one TV off a single client. The two TVs in the basement I can probably do with one client and a HDMI switch or splitter, but I'm not sure about some of the TVs upstairs, they are further apart and get used more often.

    So the only advantages that the C31 will have over the H25 is a slightly smaller form factor, possibly less of a power draw, and trick play for live TV. And I guess if the pricing is true they will be $50 for the upfront lease instead of $100.

    The only advantages of the C31 compared to an HR2x HD-DVR is the ability to set recordings on the HR34 from any C31, lower power draw, and the lower up front lease price.

    I sincerely hope DirecTV rethinks this position, or the CSR that spoke to me was wrong. The $6/month fee is supposedly to mirror the programming to the other devices. When you have more than three RVU clients you can't mirror the programming to all of them, so you shouldn't have to pay that fee for all of them.
     
  6. Aug 1, 2012 #86 of 129
    The Merg

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    I don't think that's exactly accurate. The programming can be mirrored to all of the RVU clients, but you cannot use more than 3 at the same time. I would think that's just a limitation in regards to the tuners available on a HR34 (5 tuners - two reserved for HR34, the other 3 available to clients). So technically, you could have 4 TV's on and watching different programming at the same time in the house.

    - Merg
     
  7. Aug 1, 2012 #87 of 129
    Stuart Sweet

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    I know there is a lot of miscommunication and confusion about the RVU clients. It seems like there probably is an RVU client coming "soon" but I don't think the CSRs have gotten real training on it yet.
     
  8. Aug 1, 2012 #88 of 129
    RAD

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    I would be nice if Samsung was also more forthcoming with their RVU client for the 2012 sets. Folks are wondering where the client code is and not getting any clear answers from Samsung on the status of it.
     
  9. Aug 1, 2012 #89 of 129
    dpeters11

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    I think his point is that if you have four RVU clients, you can't use more than three at once, so you should only pay three RVU fees monthly, not four.
     
  10. Aug 1, 2012 #90 of 129
    wahooq

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    the HMC will only allow 3 clients at a time so its a non-issue the csr miscommunicated
     
  11. Aug 1, 2012 #91 of 129
    raott

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    So if he has 5, but only uses three at a time, how many is he getting charged $6 for? I think that is his issue.
     
  12. Aug 1, 2012 #92 of 129
    wahooq

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    3 ... 2 tuners are designated to the dvr itself...it will only support 3 remote clients
     
  13. Aug 1, 2012 #93 of 129
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    My parents have 7 TVs throughout the house. I was planning on getting them One HR34 and 6 C31 clients. The way it works now I would have to pay a $6/month RVU client fee for all 6 C31s, that means $36/month in RVU client fees. I feel that this is unaccaptable since even though they would have 6 C31 clients they can only use three of them at any given time, therefore I feel that they should not have to pay the full $6/month fee for all 6. I feel it would be more fair if it were $6/month for the first three and the rest were free, or maybe give us a break on RVU clients compared to regular receivers, like $6/month for regular receivers and $3/month for RVU clients.

    When I posed my question to DirecTV I didn't even mention the C31. I told them I was interested in getting an HR34 and 6 Samsung RVU TVs. They said I would have to pay $6/month for each one of the Samsung TVs. I have to believe that means I would have to pay $6/month for every C31 as well once they are out. I can post my email later if others want to see it.
     
  14. Aug 1, 2012 #94 of 129
    dpeters11

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    Will the system even allow someone to have more than 3 on their account?
     
  15. Aug 1, 2012 #95 of 129
    wahooq

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    ahhh i see what your saying .....i was confused. Yeah you have to pay for each client even though only supported streaming allows three at one time....so yeah you would pay 6. per month x 6 clients
     
  16. Aug 1, 2012 #96 of 129
    wahooq

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    i was thinking about installation
     
  17. Aug 1, 2012 #97 of 129
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    So that is DirecTV's official stance right now. That really sucks, they need to reconsider that. I doubt very many people at all will go for the thin clients if that is the case. Really seems to me like they should only make you pay for 3 max, and let you have as many additional ones as you want (or as many as the RVU server can handle, I think there is a limit of 8 or 10 for a server but I can't remember for sure). I mean they are already going to get $50 for the hardware, and it will probably be leased so we will have to return it to them, why charge us $6/month for each if we can't always use them all the time. Not to mention an RVU TV where DirecTV isn't providing anything, why should DirecTV charge them for each one if they have more than three.

    I think if people are going to get charged for each one then they might as well get an HD receiver or HD-DVR and have the additional tuners.
     
  18. Aug 1, 2012 #98 of 129
    RAD

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    IIRC sources have said that most DIRECTV customers have less then four receivers in their home. So they look at RVU as a way to keep their costs down, by having only one HD DVR in the home and then the less expensive clients that still allow the customer to have DVR functionality at each location. DIRECTV is also big on being Energy Star complient and going to the RVU model helps them by reducing energy usage for the customer.
     
  19. Aug 1, 2012 #99 of 129
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    Yeah, but how many of those homes with only four receivers would have more if they didn't have to pay $6/month for each of them? How many less people would we have on here complaining about how the HDCP handshake and HD GUI have screwed up their solutions to run multiple TVs off one receiver? I'm thinking most of those people would probably add a C31 client to each of their TVs if it wasn't going to cost them $6/month for each one, but just pay $50 to buy the C31 (or possibly buy a TV or Blu-Ray player with an RVU client built in).

    Most poeple miss the days of just being able to plug a TV in and hook up a coax cable to it and then have TV wherever they want it, and have the same thing everywhere in their house. They hate having a box at each TV, paying for every single TV, having a complicated setup, etc. RVU was supposed to help us get back to that. Being able to have a RVU server somewhere in the home and then just plug in your TV and hook up a ethernet cable or coax if your TV has DECA/MOCA built in would be great. But if the costs are going to be higher I think people will not transition to it.
     
  20. Aug 1, 2012 #100 of 129
    Shades228

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    People can decide what works best for them. A receiver that they are not watching costs $6 and a RVU client they are not watching cost $6. If your main contention is that you could turn on a receiver and make it have a channel, even though you don't watch it at the time, justifies the cost then I would just order a standard receiver.

    The real issue boils down to potential use vs actual use. As every customer's situation is different they can choose what options will be best for them.
     

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