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Is this for real? If so why is there no "First Look"?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jjschind, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. Aug 1, 2012 #101 of 129
    wahooq

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    DTV is a business, ya know
     
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    Beerstalker

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    I realize they are a business, but it doesn't hurt to throw the customers a bone once in a while.

    Switching the thin clients is going to save them money anyway. The thin clients are cheaper to produce and should have less failures than HD receivers and HD-DVRs. It is likely that they could discontinue or at least scale back production or completely get rid of HD-DVRs and HD receivers completely which will save them money. They will also be smaller/lighter which means less cost to ship them, they can fit more on an installer truck so installers don't have to return to the warehouse as often etc.

    More installs with one HR34 and multiple thin clients means less installs of legacy LNBs and SWM16's which are much more expensive than simple SWM LNB installs. Think about that, my parents install with one HR34 and 6 C31s would still only be a SWM LNB since it's only 5 tuners. But if they got an HR34 and 6 H25s it would be 11 tuners which means they have to have a SWM16 install.

    RVU setups could save DirecTV a lot of money, why not reflect that in letting them cost less.
     
  3. Aug 1, 2012 #103 of 129
    wahooq

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    gotta pay for viacom somehow
     
  4. Aug 1, 2012 #104 of 129
    Beerstalker

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    Ha Ha, how about the $5/month increase we all know is coming in February.
     
  5. Aug 1, 2012 #105 of 129
    wahooq

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    that too
     
  6. Aug 1, 2012 #106 of 129
    iceburg02

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    I've never seen anyone so fired up about their parents' TV service. Whatever makes you happy, I suppose.
     
  7. Aug 1, 2012 #107 of 129
    Beerstalker

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    I'm not really that worked up, just annoyed as I was really hoping to finally rid their house of Comcast. I'm the one who does all the electronic stuff for my parents. I'm sick of having to deal with Comcast at their house, it's just one problem after another, not to mention Comcasts HD-DVRs and service just sucks period. I'm also sick of seeing them watching SD channels on their nice big HDTV because it's too confusing for them to worry about trying to find the HD version of their SD channels because they are all over the place. I've tried to show them that they can just tune to the channel and then hit select if it shows the little HD Version available thing at the bottom, but they never bother to do it. Heck I can't even get my mom to use the on screen guide, she still sits there and flips through channels or looks at the guide that comes in the local paper, ha ha ha.

    I just know if I switch them over to DirecTV and it costs them a bunch more money they are going to complain to me about it. In the end though I might just end up doing it anyway and writing them a check for a couple hundred dollars or so every year to make up for it.
     
  8. Aug 1, 2012 #108 of 129
    inkahauts

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    They don't designate any tuners for anything, just to be clear. It actually has nothing to do with tuners. They have a limit of three outbound streams from the HR34. You could have three previously recorded recordings going outbound, one playing on the hr34s tv, and recording six things at the same time (five on sat tuners and one Video On Demand). That's ten possible hd streams happening simultaneously on one hard drive. I have often wondered if the Hard drive is the limit.
     
  9. Aug 1, 2012 #109 of 129
    inkahauts

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    So this is really about Comcast sucking... Hahah

    I agree with you. They should max out RVU client charges at three per HR34.

    I'd ask though, how often do they have more than three tvs away from the hr34s tv going at the same time? If never, then it doesn't matter, it's just kind of an annoying thing to think about paying for something you can't use even though you also actually never would. In your situation, you could always go hybrid. Hook up HR34 and three RVU clients in main locations, then three h25s in the remaining locations that get used the least (as they won't have access to live buffering and double play, etc). Or try all clients to start, and then if they find it to be limiting, then slowly switch out ones that need to be to h25s. I'd say you have time since nothing is actually even announced that I am aware of other than its coming from ces, and I'd have them start tracking what they are on for the forseeable future, and see if they ever have more than four tvs on at one time anyway.
     
  10. Aug 1, 2012 #110 of 129
    carl6

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    Don't laugh, or under estimate the significance of this. It was a huge issue with my mother, as she did exactly the same thing, but the fact that many of the "cable" channels on DirecTV are east coast feeds, and I'm on the west coast, totally messed her up. The local paper listings of course referred to the local cable/west coast times for shows. Channel numbers were also an issue, as the local listings did not reflect either of the satellite providers channel numbers (but certainly did show the Comcast channel numbers).
     
  11. Aug 1, 2012 #111 of 129
    wahooq

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    true didnt think about it that way
     
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    There pretty much would never need to be more than 3 remote TVs on at one time. There is only 2 of them in the home most of the time, so most of the time they really only use 2 TVs at once, but they use the TVs in pretty much all 7 rooms. When my family, or my sister's family visit sometimes there could be up to 4 TVs watching different things at once. That's why I liked the idea of the thin clients as opposed to regular receivers, I thought it would save them money, and simplify the system a bit since they wouldn't need a SWM 16.
     
  13. Aug 1, 2012 #113 of 129
    Shades228

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    Back in the 90's this was probably the largest complaint that was made is that local listings didn't match and people on the west coast hated the east coast feeds. That's one of the reason that DIRECTV Guide magazine was created. With DVR's doing time shifting it's less of a complaint than it used to be but people missing prime time due to working or having to have multiple VCR's was a huge issue and still can be for some.
     
  14. Aug 2, 2012 #114 of 129
    brett_the_bomb

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    Any one know if they are beta testing these yet?
     
  15. Aug 2, 2012 #115 of 129
    Scott Kocourek

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    If there was anyone testing it they would not be able to talk about it.
     
  16. Aug 3, 2012 #116 of 129
    Beerstalker

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    If these really are going to be released in August or September like some people are saying then I can pretty much guarantee that some people have been testing them. Most likely even some people on here, but like Scott said they aren't allowed to talk about it. If they did I'm sure that they would have to return all the equipment, and be banned from all future testing, possibly even get banned from this site. Not to mention I'm sure the posts would get deleted pretty quick.
     
  17. Aug 3, 2012 #117 of 129
    HoTat2

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    I wonder about another possible use these clients. Even though the pricing model is the same as an additional receiver, since they are likely to be owned and not leased units for a one time purchase of $50.00 I understand . Can you treat them just like an owned receiver and activate or deactivate (or should I say "register' or "unregister") them at will?

    If so I'd like to place one in a guest room for off and on usage when visitors come and stay over at times throughout the year if that is the case.
     
  18. Aug 3, 2012 #118 of 129
    Beerstalker

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    Are we sure they are going to be owned units? I don't remember hearing that.
     
  19. Aug 3, 2012 #119 of 129
    dpeters11

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    That's what I'm hoping, that they would be owned. But that's just my own hopes and desires.
     
  20. Aug 3, 2012 #120 of 129
    brett_the_bomb

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    If these units are like the joey units, or rvu clients, does it mean they don't tie up a swim channel? I guess my real question is if you could have these in use and exceed the tuner count for a swim setup. For example, could a swm 8 have 3 h2x's, HMC, and say 4 or so c31's? I know the cinema kits don't use up a tuner like a receiver so im curious if these do. I would assume it would be possible since you can have up to 6 rvu clients on an hr34. I guess I don't know if a swm 16 is required for a setup like that tho.
     

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