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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by compnurd, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. Jul 1, 2020 #81 of 255
    inkahauts

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    Why not put appletvs on some or most the part time TVs and use tv everywhere logins and you can get most the stations and movie stuff on those TVs and only leave dtv on the TVs you watch the most. Saves ya some monthly fees. Just a thought.
     
  2. Jul 1, 2020 #82 of 255
    James Long

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    Perhaps the distinction should be linear vs non-linear? A lot of TV has turned non-linear with heavier use of DVRs over the past few years - to the point where the ratings had to be changed to reflect people watching later than the "live" feed of the content. Linear TV relies on content being released simultaneously to millions of viewers at the same moment (or at least the 76% of the population in Eastern and Central Time that get most content at same moment without a time zone delay).

    Sports is a natural for linear TV ... news is also important but most of it has devolved into pairs or panels of people yelling at each other with no real immediacy as to what is "live". Real news is easier to find via live streaming from sources than finding a news channel and hoping they cover what one is interested in seeing covered. Both of these linear sources can be enjoyed delayed - sports can be spoiled so don't tell me who won, I didn't watch last night's game yet.

    Social viewing may be the most important aspect keeping linear TV alive. Going to a sports bar and enjoying a game with a few dozen/hundred fellow fans (a little harder in the COVID era with less games and closed bars). Knowing the score and every play when you talk to your co-workers (a little harder in the work-at-home era). But social viewing goes beyond sports and major news (such as political debates, conventions, sports star car chases, disasters, space launches, etc.).

    Programmers have designed "must see TV" ... shows that may have been filmed months previous that are released in a linear form with enough fanfare that people WILL watch "live" or close to it. Shows good enough that people do not want to miss the same evening viewing and have FOMO if they don't watch ASAP. Event TV that is not all reality and contest shows ... Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead fit nicely into the event TV category. TV so good that you have to watch - tonight.

    There is a lot more non-linear content in the viewing marketplace. Some linear content can be released the next day or the next week on streaming and not lose their audience (they have not built an event oriented audience). Others thrive on linear release to build an audience that will stay up until midnight Eastern to see tonight's monologue and guests ... maybe later if the guests are good. NBC's Peacock streaming is breaking the linear barrier by doing pre-releases of their late night shows. The marketplace is certainly changing - but there is still a place for linear TV even as non-linear viewing grows.
     
  3. Jul 1, 2020 #83 of 255
    compnurd

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    The problem is not everyone like me knows what they want to watch and can pick that app. Most people in the family channel
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  4. Jul 2, 2020 #84 of 255
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    *shrug* locals + cable is the majority of what I watch. I've never found a TV series I like on NF or AP. I'm in the minority I guess there lol. Tried a bunch on both. I have found multiple ones I liked on Apple TV+ and Quibi. Also there's no live tv service that has all the channels I watch which really isn't that many, it's just weird contracts on some of the channels.
     
  5. Jul 2, 2020 #85 of 255
    SledgeHammer

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    I won't watch anything "live" due to the commercials. So I'll start 15 minutes in. I don't think I ever take days or weeks to watch a recording. Right now due to the virus and a lot of shows on hiatus, I'm averaging about 20 recordings per 2 weeks in my todo list.
     
  6. Jul 2, 2020 #86 of 255
    James Long

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    That seems to be the big difference between traditional MVPDs and streamers. Recorded linear allows one to do that ... start late and skip commercials. Stream on demand is more likely to have forced commercial breaks or pre-show commercials. The second challenge is when the show is available. If I set my DVR for 10pm on Tuesday I can start watching immediately (and suffer commercials if I don't wait long enough). When is that particular show available on demand? 11pm? 3am ET the next day?
     
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  7. Jul 2, 2020 #87 of 255
    SledgeHammer

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    I tried Tvision recently and one of the big issues aside from PQ was that I'm on the west coast, and I've gotten used to DirecTV giving me east coast feeds, so all the cable shows come on 5pm to 8pm here vs. 8pm to 11pm. That gives me enough time to watch everything same day.
     
  8. Jul 2, 2020 #88 of 255
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    There are plenty of ways to handle it. Maybe they catch people who are watching the same channel/stream at the same time in two different locations on the same account. Cable doesn't let you do that, after all.

    They could require all 'set top' or similar devices from Apple TV to Chromecast to smart TVs come from the same IP address and don't change their location. Again, that's a limitation people have become used to with cable.

    They could require registering your devices in some way and limit their number and how often they could be used in different geographic areas. That's not exactly how cable works, but they'll tell you you should be glad they let you use your own devices at all.

    That's kind of why I think they are all waiting for someone to make the first move, people will inevitably be unhappy they are losing some of the extra freedom they had vs cable - but that freedom has been abused by a lot of people sharing accounts. All the providers will want to see how it goes over when the first one tries it, and if customers don't revolt they'll all quickly follow suit. My bet is Disney is the first to do it, once they've built up Disney+ subscriber numbers more and become 'indispensable' to more people, because they know they would be able to get away with it.
     
  9. Jul 2, 2020 #89 of 255
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    So I have to give some credit here... After I reported the RSN issue the other day I got a call today.. There website has been updated now to reflect there are no RSN's in my area.. and they gave me an extra 10 off a month for a year for calling about it.. So now have the Xtra package for 54.99 a month for a year
     
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    That is good! How has your user experience been so far?
     
  11. Jul 2, 2020 #91 of 255
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    It has been good.. Really no different then having Sat service
     
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    That is good to hear. Glad it is working for you.
     
  13. Jul 20, 2020 #93 of 255
    compnurd

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    So quick Update here.... after about a month of use... I added 3 more ATT TV boxes.. to be clear here... I NEVER purchased them to be a one box solutions. Lets be honest.. there is no one box for anything.. For watching TV the box is great. There was an update 2 weeks back also that sped the box up considerably.. Channel changing and turn on time are now faster then any box i had previous to turning on.. Guide speed and menu speed are also alot faster now. The Interface is really nice and offers alot of options when playing with it.. My only complaint is they dont currently have anyway to see what your series recordings are.. Hoping that shows up soon.. The phone app is also alot faster then the Directv app.. What do i miss. While it has pretty much every channel we watch.. There are some obvious missing ones from regular directv. the west coast feeds and others. My Directv service officially was killed on the 13th. I have not returned the equipment yet and also have not heard from the winback team.. Would i switch back.. maybe if they got the price down to a reasonable level.. otherwise though it has been pretty good so far
     
  14. Jul 20, 2020 #94 of 255
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    Curious if you used the same name/address to subscribe to AT&T TV? I wonder if people that move from DIRECTV ===> AT&T TV don't get winback offers since they still have their hand in your pocket?
     
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    Rich

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    Why would you do that? Serious question. Aside from the cost.

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  16. Jul 20, 2020 #96 of 255
    krel

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    i know they have been shoving there streaming service down peoples throats
     
  17. Jul 20, 2020 #97 of 255
    compnurd

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    Yes but it made be create a new user id since my directv one also had a cancelled att tv now account
     
  18. Jul 20, 2020 #98 of 255
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    Biggest reason would be channel options.. While i wont, i liked the option to subscribe to sunday ticket, extra innings etc. There is also the fact that no streaming service offers my RSN yet so that helps solve that problem until someone does
     
  19. Jul 20, 2020 #99 of 255
    Rich

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    Thanks. Baseball is back and I'm thinking of giving the new service a trial run, see if it works somewhat as D* does in the context of sports. That, and my curiosity about the SSDs in the HRs, is my stumbling block.

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    If they add Mets and Yankees games to WPIX you won't see them on AT&T TV. I believe the Yankees games originally scheduled for WPIX were also slated for Amazon Prime TV.
     

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