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Discussion in 'Local Reception' started by Stuart Sweet, Jun 3, 2009.

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  1. SayWhat?

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    I haven't noticed any difference. Digital doesn't look any better. It's OK with a good signal, but I think it's worse overall in that weaker signals pixelate and are unwatchable. Analog had some snow, but you could still watch it.
     
  2. Zellio

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    OTA HD looks good. Too bad local station have crap.
     
  3. ibooksrule

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    I notice a huge difference. Try and pick up an analog station here they come and go and are snowy and hard to see whats going on. compare with a HD show is on in primetime analog vs digital oh my its like stone age compared to digital.

    I will agree digital has its faults too I dont think digital covers as far as analog but everything has its draw backs.
     
  4. ChrisPC

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    2 is still on here in Nashville, but skip is hitting it pretty hard. 5 has switched to digital. I can't wait until they turn 2 off, so I can see what the skip is!
     
  5. xmguy

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    You are correct. Digital TV signals will NOT go as far as analog. But Digital IS much clearer.
     
  6. msmith

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    So far, so bad. I've lost the digital signal on the two stations that went back to their VHF channel - 6 and 12 in Philadelphia. I was getting them at 70-90 on UHF, and now I'm just getting about 40. I'm using a Terk HDTV-A indoor amplified antenna.
     
  7. ziggy29

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    That begs a question: Is there any indoor antenna that's particularly suited to low VHF? There are still a few markets where there are going to be locals in low VHF -- Philly being the largest -- and it might be instructive to hear if any are particularly good with low VHF. Then again, maybe rabbit ears are rabbit ears...
     
  8. pfp

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    The DTV transition happens in several phases on Friday:

    KTVK (3)/KASW (61) – 12:01 AM, June 12
    KNXV (15) – 12:01 AM, June 12
    KSAZ (10)/KUTP (45) - 8:30 AM, June 12
    KPNX (12) – 10:12 PM, June 12
    KTVW (33) – 10:59 PM (Univision AZ), 10:29 PM (Telefutura AZ), June 12
    KPHO (5) – 11:59 PM, June 12
    KAZT-TV (7) – Transition to digital completed on May 15
    KAET (8) – Transition to digital completed on April 27th
    KTAZ (39) – Transition to digital completed on February 17
    KMOH (6), Kingman – Transition to digital completed on February 17
     
  9. bobcamp1

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    Well....

    The switch for WSTM didn't go as planned. NBC is totally off the air today. They are going to turn analog back on tonight night for the hockey game.

    For game 7 of the hockey game (if needed), they said they are exploring:
    - Somehow get it running by Sunday night
    - Turn analog back on for three hours and hope the FCC doesn't fine them
    - Take over one of the other stations to broadcast game 7. The same company also owns the WTVH (CBS affiliate), so maybe whatever is on CBS will get preempted for the game. Or maybe they can put a sub-channel on the CBS affiliate.

    Cable and satellite users continue to receive NBC, but are warned that might get disrupted over the next few days as they scramble to fix the OTA problems.
     
  10. pfp

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    How does that help when the game is tonight, Friday. :scratch:
     
  11. DBSJedi

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    Throw together a VHF wire loop using these instructions here:
    http://www.kyes.com/antenna/rabbitear.html

    I built one in 2004 and have used it with great receptivity to pickup WDKY on VHF channel 4 for the last 5 years. Out of pocket cost - about $5. :D
    WDKY is moving to UHF 31 tonight, so my wire loop investment is soon to become a paperweight or clothesline or something. lol
     
  12. ibooksrule

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    We have lost 38 the spot , 41 NBC and 50 ION here in kansas city since the digital switch.
    Well NBC is just very low signal in the low 50s. Was mid 60s earlier

    ANyone else in KC area having this issue or is it me?
     
  13. Raymie

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    Yeah. By the way, it seems like KFPH-CA (not the full-power TV station in Flagstaff) is gone (KTVW 33.2 replaced it). 15, 10-45, 61 already gone. (3 is a nightlight no matter how bad its reception is.)

    Really lame analog signoffs compared to some I'd seen.

    The first analog station in the state might just be the last (5).

    And 10 really signed off with a bang. They introduced snow to a commercial, then they cut the carrier.

    You need high VHF here because of 8-10-12 actually being 8, 10, and 12.
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

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    I'll have to do some tweaking to get my PBS back... They are always a tough get for me here anyway. Also might have some issues with the local that went back to its VHF frequency since I'm using a makeshift antenna setup and haven't had to worry about VHF until now.

    Meanwhile, it looked like 17.1 was back... but no HD during the day to check and see if they fixed that part until tonight (probably NBC Nightly News will be the first chance to check).
     
  15. ziggy29

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    The "main event" has occurred in Austin -- the one station that is changing frequency (KTBC) has done so. A couple of stations haven't turned off analog yet, but they aren't changing digital frequency so people should be able to rescan now and be done with it. Right now 7.1 is a lot weaker than it was pre-transition because they're using a temporary lower-power transmitter until construction of the new antenna for channel 7 is complete. 60 miles from the tower with a YA-1713, I can barely lock on it.
     
  16. scooper

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    I've got a few OTA ATSC tuners that lost WTVD , but strangely any Echostar DTVPAL boxes are not having any issues with it. Signal strength was greatly reduced - I'll try some tweaking tomorrow to see if I can make things better. I think a VHF preamp is in my future, however.

    Any UHF stations that are staying on UHF were just fine with my existing setup.

    I don't expect any major changes with WUNP (Roanoke Rapids).
     
  17. bobcamp1

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    It doesn't -- NBC has corrected their information (which I copied from their website). And I got 2 hours sleep last night so I don't know what day it is anymore. :eek2:

    They shut down the digital transmitter down early because they're switching frequencies. They left analog up for game 6 and up until this morning. They turned it off, then they just turned it back on at 4:30. (Why bother turning it off at all?)

    The frequency switch isn't going well for them...

    As I thought, they're trying to piggyback as a new subchannel off the CBS affiliate (owned by the same company). It's not HD, but it's not snow, either.

    They suggested rescanning several times throughout the weekend. So it's more like an "SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOSS" than an "SOS".

    Of course D* isn't keeping up with any of this. Forget trying to record the hockey game with a DVR. I'll have to record it on VHS.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    I agree.. LA stations have done a horrible job on their web sites.. I was very disappointed.. However, The la times is very helpful...

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-dtv-infobox12-2009jun12,0,2680126.story?page=1
     
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  20. scooper

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    My DTV transition day was about as uneventful as I thought it would be... Need to do some work to improve the reception of the HI-VHF digital, but otherwise...
     
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