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Just Got an HDTV and I Have a Few Questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by HaterSlayer, Jun 7, 2010.

  1. Jun 7, 2010 #1 of 34

    HaterSlayer New Member

    Mar 24, 2010
    I'm a bit late to the party, but I just got an HDTV. The TV is in our living room which is also home to our DVR receiver. I'm not exactly sure the specific model for the receiver, but we just got DirecTV back 3 months ago so I'm sure it's whatever the current non-HD receiver is.

    We hooked it up with the RCA cables and the picture looks pretty meh. My mother doesn't want to pay the extra cost to get an HD receiver so I'm trying to maximize what I can with what I have. I hooked my Xbox360 up to it via component and it looks fantastic. Can the non-HD DVR support that? What about S-Video? For a hail mary what about HDMI? What is the max resolution this can output? 480P?

    Thanks for any help.
  2. Jun 7, 2010 #2 of 34

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    Standard def looks crappy on HD sets. You can get free HD for 24 months if you do auto-pay. You might get a free upgrade. Call Directv.
  3. Jun 7, 2010 #3 of 34

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    May 17, 2010
    Your picture quality will improve with s-video and component. As for HDMI it will provide 480i, 480p, 720i, 720p, 1080i and 1080p providing your new HDTV does likewise. For your info DirecTV is giving free HD access to those who use auto pay. There is a thread on this site where this is being discussed. Go to the home page and you will see it there on the right side of the page. Good luck getting your mom to upgrade.
  4. Jun 7, 2010 #4 of 34

    BattleZone Hall Of Fame

    Nov 13, 2007
    Right, but the OP currently only has an SD-DVR, which can only output in 480i, with S-Video being the highest-quality connection.

    As sigma stated, SD looks bad on any HDTV, but worse on larger ones. It won't get better, so the solution is to upgrade to HD.
  5. Jun 8, 2010 #5 of 34

    ndole Problem Solver

    Aug 26, 2009
    He might have a refurb R22. :p
  6. Jun 8, 2010 #6 of 34

    kikkenit2 Icon

    Oct 25, 2006
    Slaver we need the model but yes sd looks terrible on hdtv. Xbox 360 & ps3 do hd. Wi doesn't. Upgrade the sat hardware. For cabling hdmi carries best audio and video. Red, blue, green component will carry hd but s-video/yellow rca won't. Use digital audio instead of red/white stereo when possible.
  7. Jun 8, 2010 #7 of 34

    Directvlover Legend

    Aug 27, 2007
    What's the point in getting the HDTV without getting the HD service to go with it. Tell your mom that she's basically wasted her money on the new tv.
  8. Jun 8, 2010 #8 of 34

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Do you have an old over the air antenna that you could hook up to the TV's digital tuner and see if you can get any local stations via OTA? If yes then at least you'd have your local channels in HD (assuming they broadcast in HD) and if mom like it maybe she'd pop for the HD upgrade.
  9. Jun 8, 2010 #9 of 34

    ThomasM RF Engineer

    Jul 20, 2007
    Milwaukee, WI
    Well, I have an R22 connected to my 42" HDTV via HDMI and I think the picture looks just fine. Even with the so-called "free HD" for 2 years offer, I can't justify the cost to upgrade to an HD DVR and a new 2 year commitment.

    Of note, I did have one of my R15's hooked to the HDTV before shuffling the R22 to that room and it didn't look that bad either using S-VIDEO.

    I noticed that Consumer Reports ratings for HDTV's have a column indicating how SD looks on the set and it varies widely by brand and model. When shopping for my HDTV, the store had (of all things) an HR-21 feeding all the HDTV's and the salesman let me switch it between SD and HD. WOW what a difference on some TV's but very little on others. I paid a couple hundred dollars more for one of the HDTV's that had a great SD picture (a Toshiba Regza). The cheaper Toshiba looked like an out-of-focus movie when fed an SD signal.
  10. The Merg

    The Merg 1*

    Jun 24, 2007
    Northern VA
    If the OP has an R22, he could get a resolution of 480p, which is what I do. In that case, the OP could use component cables or HDMI and the picture should look pretty good.

    However, I would agree with trying to upgrade. The OP might be able to get an HD receiver at a good price and having the HD fee waived for two years is a good incentive. Plus, hopefully, the HD fee will be gone after that point in time for everyone.

    - Merg
  11. ThomasM

    ThomasM RF Engineer

    Jul 20, 2007
    Milwaukee, WI
    The key word here is TRYING. I'll bet with this "free HD" fiasco upgrades are going for full price ($199 for a DVR + new 2 year commitment). And you only get 24 months of guaranteed "free HD".

    That's a lot of money not to mention the commitment for a bit clearer picture on the same channels you already pay for.

    I think if I was an "HD fanatic" like many other posters here, I'd switch to DISH Network with a FREE HD DVR install and guaranteed free HD for life not to mention their great rate for the first year...
  12. hilmar2k

    hilmar2k Hall Of Fame

    Mar 18, 2007
    Understatement of the millenium.

    EDIT: FWIW, 720p is 6x and 1080i is 6.75x the resolution of SD. That's just a touch more than "a bit". ;)
  13. Blaze

    Blaze Legend

    Jun 9, 2010
    I don't understand why you were not offered the HD Receiver when you signed up for Directv.

    Like others said here you can get 2 years free HD Access,However in your case i would try for "FREE ACCESS FOR LIFE" since you're a Directv Customer for only 3 months.
    If they tell you no on the "FREE ACCESS FOR LIFE" have them transfer you to Customer retention.

    You never know unless you ask.
  14. dcandmc

    dcandmc Legend

    Sep 24, 2008
    Because, as per the original post, at that time he didn't have a HDTV.
  15. Blaze

    Blaze Legend

    Jun 9, 2010
    So he could have got the HD Receiver, if they knew she was getting a HDTV.
  16. ajc68

    ajc68 Icon

    Jan 23, 2008
    There's no point to having an HDTV if you don't have HD service. I would call DirecTV and see what kind of deals they have for upgrading to an HD receiver and sign up for the free HD service by going paperless.
  17. jimmie57

    jimmie57 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 26, 2010
    Texas City, TX
    My mother has Comcast Cable, YUK.
    Her old TV died and she got a new one, HD Samsung.
    We let her look at it with the cable screwed directly to the TV for about 2 weeks.
    Then we convinced her that she would just love the HD.
    My mother is 86 and still insisted she did not want or need it.
    My sister had them come out and install the HD box.
    The service rep told her before he started that she would see a big difference.
    He installed and set it up.
    He then showed her the same channels she was watching, In SD.
    She said she did not see any difference. He then turned to the HD channel that was the same show.
    She said WOW, That lady is old and wrinkled like me.
    They laughed and she said YEP, I could not see that on the other channel.
    She now brags about her picture on her HD set and has told all her sisters and brothers about it ( they were all using SD on their HD sets), because they did not want to pay the extra.

    Good luck
  18. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    I actually had HD receivers before I had HDTVs. But once I install my first HDTV, I quickly replaced all my other SD televisions.
  19. Blaze

    Blaze Legend

    Jun 9, 2010

    I have a HDTV and don't have Directv HD, but i have HD OTA.
  20. dcandmc

    dcandmc Legend

    Sep 24, 2008
    I don't think that we can tell from the OP "if" they knew she was going to be getting a HDTV. Besides, if I remember correctly, it's D*'s policy to not install an HD receiver unless the customer actually has a HDTV.

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