Just left DirecTV and feel like I jumped ahead a decade...

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  1. Jul 15, 2019 #21 of 154
    janthony6

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    I cut directv when they wouldn’t renegotiate my price after my 2 year.

    I tried streaming services and use fiber 1000/1000 - picture quality for the most part sucked and streams were always behind live by a lot. Occasionally there would be buffering or certain channels being down at bad times.

    Back to directv. Makes me appreciate how good the picture quality is. Especially the 4K channels.
     
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  2. Jul 15, 2019 #22 of 154
    unixguru

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    I've tried a few streaming channels including Amazon Prime on a Roku 4. Picture quality is ok vs DirecTV but trick-play of any kind sucks. It may be just this particular model of box but lip-sync is terrible.

    I'm also completely unimpressed by the programming libraries available. Amazon Prime - almost everything is ancient junk. Vudu PPV never has anything that DirecTV doesn't have and no $ advantage. Netflix... ancient junk. Haven't tried Hulu. Not to say that DirecTV programming is anything special. I've been slowly cutting back on pay movie channels as they are 99% old crap too. If it weren't for a few original series on HBO and SHO they'd be gone.

    Basically my wife and I feel that "TV" (to include streaming and movies) has overall been of declining quality/value for years. Even movies now are basically a series of retreads. Doesn't seem to matter what the source or delivery mechanism.

    Considering that streaming 1) can't provide any better programming overall, 2) trick-play sucks, 3) lip-sync sucks, and 4) sometimes interferes with other internet activity... I'm completely unimpressed/not sold. Sure, it will probably save money and if that is a tradeoff people are willing to take then I certainly have no issue with it.

    BTW, I hold ZERO hope for AT&T/DirecTV Streaming to change my views in any way.
     
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  3. Jul 15, 2019 #23 of 154
    Rich

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    I've had every iteration of 4K Rokus and I returned every one of them very quickly. If they were giving them away I would not take one. You might want to try an Apple TV streaming box. You will not have those problems. You didn't mention Netflix in your post, you might want to give that streaming video service a try. I've been streaming for years and I spend most of my time on NF. Never see a lack of programming that interests me.

    Yeah, no streamer is gonna do trick play like D*'s remotes do. But you don't have to have a remote in your hands constantly when you stream. I get the trick play thing for sports, no streamer can match D* for sports.

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  4. Jul 15, 2019 #24 of 154
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    I totally disagree with you ,I have used apple tv, fire stick , and roku, and I still have all of them, and I use a roku on all my tv's ,it has the best interface and easy to use, and I get a great pc, but everyone is entitled to there own opinion .
     
  5. Jul 16, 2019 #25 of 154
    Nick

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    For my official 22,000th post, but probably not my last, I will also stand for the Roku's. I, too, have used every iteration of the device and have been extremely satisfied -- so much so that I have not felt any need or desire to try other streamers.

    To the OP's point about Comcast, I switched from Dish to Comcast's X1 technology almost 10 years ago when I bought a new house and have not looked back. I find X1 to be superior in every way, but most importantly, it perfectly suits my lifestyle and personal preferences. With a near 99.99% uptime record, I cannot remember the last time my Comcast cable service was interrupted. It has even kept working during a t-storm when my power went out (I have UPS). I cannot say anything negative about the Comcast service (except maybe the cost which can be a tad pricey).
     
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  6. Jul 16, 2019 #26 of 154
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  7. Jul 16, 2019 #27 of 154
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    But it's still probably a bit cheaper to bundle both TV service and internet service from Comcast than paying separately for internet from them plus DirecTV from AT&T, isn't it?
     
  8. Jul 16, 2019 #28 of 154
    James Long

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    Not for me. I still do better with separate DISH and Xfinity Internet only. While there sre apparent discounts when bundling, I got a discount on unbundled internet.
     
  9. Jul 16, 2019 #29 of 154
    janthony6

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    I almost signed up for Cox but they use older boxes than Comcast for their x1, don’t do 4K, and their quality is pretty damn low.

    Also they sent me a flier for $39 a month. When I went to sign up, it was $20 for a dvr per month, plus 10 for each additional tv. Then you have to pay 12 just to get channels like Disney and an additional 20 a month to get sports channels including RedZone. Hbo and showtime were a 3 month low rate for like 10 plus 5.

    They really charge a lot and rack things up fast. I never liked that they still have channel 2 as standard def and you have to go to 1002 to watch HD. Who watches SD anymore?

    Directv just wins - the bit rate is much higher, more channels, free hbo since I have att wireless, 3 months free premiums (all), all 4K boxes, integrates perfectly in my smart home, free Sunday ticket max, no cost for the dvr, free first receiver and 7/mo for each additional.

    Total bill is under $80 for 12 months. After that it’s $124.
     
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    Rich

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    Every time I get up the nerve to make that statement this happens. Of course people are happy with the Rokus. That was just my opinion based on buying every higher priced 4K Roku device. As usual, YMMV.

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  11. Jul 16, 2019 #31 of 154
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    We don't seem to do the post count thing anymore. Congrats, Nick! We ought to revive that thread.

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  12. Jul 16, 2019 #32 of 154
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    I wish I understood how the same product can produce such vastly varying results. Every time I bother to research the lip-sync problem with Roku 4 I find many people having the same problem. Picture quality is acceptable but the lip-sync problem is not. I've had the Roku for a few years and no software update has changed it. I moved ~6 months ago and have completely different internet provider, not that that would have anything to do with it. It must be related to the specific Roku "channel" (aka app on Roku) we use - Amazon Prime. We use it because we get it for free due to Prime membership. Come to think of it, we had CBS All Access for a few months and it was better in that regard.

    The thing that grinds me the most is that they could solve the trick-play issues entirely with a box that has local storage (I ranted about this on this forum years ago). Record the program just as if it was a satellite feed. Sure, will be a more expensive box but then it certainly could be a higher-end upgrade that people pay for if they want it. That would start to get interesting.

    I think part of the problem with Roku is that its essentially a platform for "apps" supplied by their partners. For example, Vudu and Amazon Prime have absolutely nothing in common as far as appearance. Only the very basics of operation ("Select", "Play", "Pause", etc) are similar purely by convention. Of course trick-play is highly constrained by the lack of local storage that all apps suffer. I haven't tried an Apple TV (yet) but I assume things are very different there - knowing Apple I imagine they write only one interface and everybody else just provides the right bit stream. That could partially explain why they are better.
     
  13. Jul 16, 2019 #33 of 154
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    Nope - the apps, for the most part, appear to look and operate the same. (I have a Roku, Firestick and an Apple TV 4k.) The Netflix interface is much, much better than the Prime interface (my opinion), but the interface itself is the same on all of my devices.

    The difference, at least for me, is PQ - definitely better on my OLED TV with the Apple device. The menu system on it, along with the new TV app is excellent, rivaling the Roku - which is saying something.

    As for the speed while in the 'main' menu interface on each device, about the same, but 'feels' snappier on the Apple (but not a big deal). Streams start quicker on the Apple, however, and there is never any buffering. (All three of my devices are connected with ethernet - no wifi while watching TV for me.)

    It's the 'fit and finish' of the Apple device that just looks and feels better while using it.
     
  14. Jul 16, 2019 #34 of 154
    Rich

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    I'm picky about picture quality and I saw a better picture on my ATVs and my Fire TV devices (the Fire TVs are a step below the ATVs I think) than I did on the most expensive Rokus. Never saw that difference until Roku came out with the 4K boxes. The lip sync problem I didn't see but I didn't have the Rokus very long. I don't find it odd that Apple makes what I think is the best streamer out there, they do everything well. An ATV is an iPad without a screen, they are that powerful. I doubt you'd see the lip sync problem with an ATV or a Fire TV device. Best bang for your buck when it comes to streamers? Fire TV devices. ATVs seem to put people off because...well, they are a bit more complicated than the rest of the streamers. Takes a bit of time to get used to them. And they are expensive. Wonderful, but expensive. We have six of them in the house and a bunch of Fire TV boxes that we rarely use. Don't take my word, do yourself a favor and try one for a couple weeks, you'll see.

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    Rich

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    Exactly. And you are clearly able to compare them.

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  16. Jul 16, 2019 #36 of 154
    Athlon646464

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    One more tidbit on the Apple TV...

    iOS 13 on the ATV will have an associated app on your phone that will listen to your sound system while you are seated in your favorite viewing chair and streaming with the ATV.

    Your phone and the ATV will then talk to each other to correct any lip-syncing issues by making adjustments on the ATV. Sounds (pun intended) very cool.
     
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    Rich

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    Didn't know that. What app does that?

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  18. Jul 16, 2019 #38 of 154
    Athlon646464

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    Not out yet unless you want to risk the beta (not sure it's in that yet either). It's planned for iOS 13 - due in September.
     
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  20. Jul 16, 2019 #40 of 154
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    Oh that is bloody disappointing.
     

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