Just left DirecTV and feel like I jumped ahead a decade...

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  1. dminches

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    For me, what separates DirecTV from the competition is the vast sports offering. If AT&T eliminates a lot of the sports content in their new packages they are going to lose a lot of subscribers. I live with all the hardware issues and satellite glitches because they carry so much content.
     
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  2. dtv757

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    Sports programming , 4K and customer service ! All reasons I choose D*

    Now if only more folks had access to FTTH

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  3. SledgeHammer

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    Umm... really? Maybe 10+ yrs ago...
     
  4. slice1900

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    They need to offer some good packages without sports to prevent cord cutting. Sports is close to half the cost of a typical package these days, which is why non sports fans have been cutting the cord as sports keeps driving up their bill more and more every year.

    They aren't going to drop sports, but need to give better options for those who don't want to pay for sports if they want to keep them as subscribers.
     
  5. dminches

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    It is going to be a tall order to keep people who are not interested in sports. There is so much competition out there and I don’t see how DirecTV has any advantage for non-sports offerings. The streaming services are better than DirecTV for other content. I rarely watch content on DirecTV which is available on my Apple TV.
     
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  6. dtv757

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    Now lol

    I called a few months ago got 100 off for 12 months and movie channels free for 12 months

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  7. SledgeHammer

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    They do / did. I was more steamed then anybody when they introduced RSNs since I have < 0 interest in sports. On a scale of 1 to 10, my interest is at -∞ :D.

    They intro'ed a package called Preferred Xtra that did away with the RSN and I saved about $8/mo on my bill. I *believe*, but could be wrong that they no longer sell that package and that you have to go down all the way to the granny package to get rid of the RSN.

    Today, there isn't really a way for me to get my TV via streaming. I watch locals, some basic cable channels (History, USA, TBS, Science, DIY, HGTV, PBS, Discovery, NatGeo and maybe a few others) + mostly theatrical movies and maybe a few indy / straight to video movies.

    … thus the use case for my 1 Gbps ISP ;).
     
  8. SledgeHammer

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    If non-sports people (which I am one of them) watch similar content to my post above (which I'd say most do), then traditional cable / sat is probably your best bet.

    Amazon Prime is good if you want a good selection of classic TV

    Disney+ will be good if you want Disney, Pixar or Fox content

    Netflix -- not really sure what Netflix is good for anymore... I made a great return on stock, but now that they are losing all licensed content, you aren't going to find much watchable stuff on there. At least I didn't. As Slice once mentioned, at this point, you could probably sub one or two months a year to Netflix and watch everything you watch and then cancel til next year. I couldn't even find enough content to fill a month. Other posters on here like Rich have said he can always find something to watch, so YMMV there.
     
  9. TheRatPatrol

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    Same here.

    What about those of us that want nothing but sports, how a sports only package that doesn’t have all the other stuff? I
     
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    Can someone please give me a link to an AT&T TV FAQ? I've been away for a LONG time and would like to get back up to speed.

    thanks!
     
  11. NashGuy

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    Yeah, you're both right. I've spelled out in detail in multiple places my predictions for what the new channel packages to be introduced this fall on both AT&T TV and DirecTV will look like but I'll summarize here:

    • Select: a low-cost package with no locals and no all-sports channels (nothing owned by Disney/ABC, CBS, Comcast/NBC or Fox). But subscribers will have the option to use an AT&T OTA tuner to integrate free locals, with local DVR capability.
    • Plus: a package of the most popular stuff: major locals, the biggest entertainment and news channels and the biggest sports channels (ESPN, ESPN 2, FS1, NBCSN)
    • Max: a package with everything Plus has, but also RSNs, several second-string sports channels (FS2, Golf, SEC Network, CBS Sports Network, etc.), and a sprinkling of additional second-tier entertainment channels (Paramount Network, TV Land, etc.)
    • Extra Packs: optional add-on packages of channels ($5-10 each) that aren't included in either Plus or Max and which can be added to any base package. One would be a Sports Extra with stuff like MLB Network, NBA TV, NHL Network, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded/Buzzer Beater, etc. Another would be some kind of Family (or Heartland) Extra (additional Hallmark channels, UPtv, Game Show Network, etc.). Another would be an Entertainment (or Hollywood) Extra (Sundance TV, Lifetime Movies, Reelz, etc.).
    If I'm right, it'll be a very, very smart system that AT&T has constructed. Plus will be the mainstream package for the average consumer who watches some sports but isn't a hard-core fan. Most sports geeks will have to pay more by stepping up to Max and/or add the Sports Extra Pack. But for those on a tight budget and/or who don't care about sports at all, Select will give them a decent variety of stuff to watch (especially if they can supply their own locals via OTA antenna).

    And all the packages will include HBO at launch, to be replaced by the much more expansive HBO Max next spring.

    When these skinny streaming cable TV services like Sling TV and PS Vue started popping up, I predicted that the long-term evolution would be that those services and traditional cable TV would becoming increasingly like each other, eventually meeting in the middle and becoming indistinguishable. That's what AT&T TV will be.
     
  12. NashGuy

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    It hasn't been officially announced yet. AT&T leaders have been dropping hints about it for over a year now and a couple of internal company screenshots with details leaked out a couple weeks ago confirming the name. At this point, there's a lot of conjecture and speculation (mostly by me, ha) but not a lot of solid facts. We do know that it's going to be delivered mainly using the OTT cloud-based streaming video platform developed for and currently used by DirecTV Now. We also know that it will feature a streaming set-top box that AT&T has designed in conjunction with Google (powered by Android TV) that has been in beta test by select DirecTV Now subscribers for the past 7-8 months.
     
  13. NashGuy

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    Yeah, it's going to be fascinating to watch what happens with Netflix. Will they just gradually cool off and settle in as one of a handful of leading direct-to-consumer services in the next couple years? Or will they take a hard fall and become the MySpace of streaming TV?

    I think my plan for 2020 will be to keep HBO Max and basic Hulu (both ad-free) all year, and then subscribe to a third service that will rotate between Showtime, Netflix and Prime Video (about 4 months of each). Well, actually, I also want to try Apple TV+ and I'm hoping that Apple gives it away for free the first year to Apple TV owners. We'll see. If not, I'll have to look at the price and decide how to slot it into the mix. I like the occasional Pixar film but, with no kids, have no plans to subscribe to Disney+.
     
  14. Rich

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    That sports package would be great for me. For me, that's all D* is good for these days. They will never do that, of course.

    Rich
     
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    I think NF will adapt to whatever happens. NF reminds me of Amazon in many ways. Wildly successful and plenty of haters. Why folks don't get NF is beyond me. Would be interesting to see what folks that put NF down constantly actually watch. I know going to NF for the first time is kinda overwhelming and it's easier to stick with what you know but there is so much good content on NF it boggles the mind.

    Rich
     
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  16. NashGuy

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    There's *some* great content -- Stranger Things! The Crown! -- but, for my tastes, I've found more series that I've really liked and stuck with on both HBO and Showtime than on Netflix over the past few years. But now, that's just my tastes as a college-educated Gen-Xer. I think Netflix is really strong for those under age 30.

    There are a couple of quotes that are illustrative of my points. The first is when one of the head guys at Netflix said years ago that "we're betting that we can become HBO faster than HBO can become us." And it was clear that when Netflix launched their line of Originals, the strategy was to do high-quality "prestige TV," with series like House of Cards and OITNB. Those shows would've been right at home on HBO and Showtime.

    The second quote is one I came across in a great article in the NYTimes recently, "The Great Race to Rule Streaming TV". In it, a former Netflix employee talks about the mentality that existed when he landed at the company a few years ago, saying that he didn't get the sense at that point that Netflix wanted to be the next HBO but rather that they wanted to replace the entire cable dial.

    Which, TBH, completely validates my perception of what's happened with Netflix's Originals strategy. It morphed from doing a few series really well to being a video sausage factory that cranks out a deluge of stuff aimed at all demographics and tastes, most of it mediocre, a bit of it very good. Netflix has become like cable basic, but without sports, live news, or ads. Why did I ditch cable/satellite TV years ago for streaming? Because I cared about stuff on the premium networks (which were suddenly also standalone streaming services too), plus some stuff on the broadcast nets, but didn't care so much about wading through the wasteland of reality shows, reruns, and sub-par scripted originals on basic cable channels.

    The head of AT&T recently said that he didn't think Netflix really had a brand, while HBO does have a brand, as do other WarnerMedia properties, which would anchor and help launch the upcoming HBO Max competitor to Netflix. And, frankly, I think he's right. What IS Netflix's brand? "We do ad-free streaming video?" Sorry, that's not differentiated enough when umpteen others do the same thing.

    You know how Sears used to be the basic one-size-fits-all American department store? Worked great for a long time, until retail began specializing into narrower segments targeted at different demographics, tastes, budgets. Netflix is to direct-to-consumer subscription streaming video what Sears was to American retail several decades ago. And we know what happened to Sears.
     
  17. Athlon646464

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    Basic Hulu is ad free?
     
  18. NashGuy

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    I say "basic Hulu" to mean their original on-demand service (without the bundle of live cable channels included). You can get that basic Hulu service two ways: with limited ads for $6/mo or ad-free for $12/mo. I do the latter.
     
  19. Athlon646464

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    My wife and I like the British crime dramas a lot - and we haven't seen 30 in a long time. :sunglasses: 'Happy Valley' was terrific, and we're in the middle of 'Marcella' right now. 'The Fall' was also terrific.

    'The Crown' is very good.
     
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  20. Athlon646464

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    I see - I call the $6 one the basic Hulu plan.
     

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