Just saw a 4K

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  1. Oct 25, 2013 #21 of 123
    The Merg

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    Thanks for the link, Merg!

    I was able to snag a 65ZT for under 3K (I have a friend in the business), but for those willing to order online, it's available here for $2845 with free shipping!

    A couple of different reviewers really like the ZT series, though they did question the value over the VT series (at list price):

     
  3. Oct 26, 2013 #23 of 123
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    Huh. If that was $1845 I'd buy one immediately. I've sworn off paying over $2,000 for a TV. Not written in stone, tho.

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  4. Oct 26, 2013 #24 of 123
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    That same place has the 60ZT for $2179, or a 60VT for $1709. They say the VT has almost the same PQ.
     
  5. Oct 26, 2013 #25 of 123
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    I think Crutchfield matches prices. Not sure. They're a pretty good site to deal with. I've bought a lot of stuff from them and never had any problems.

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    Abe's has the 65VT for $2309 shipped.
     
  7. Oct 26, 2013 #27 of 123
    Rich

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    Naw, the next TV I buy, I'm not gonna settle for the next best, I'll wait for the prices to drop.

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  8. Oct 26, 2013 #28 of 123
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    If there are lots of ZTs in the warehouse when Panny finally discontinues them, then the prices may drop. Otherwise, once Panny goes out of the plasma business, unless they sell the Kuro technology to Samsung or LG, your next TV will likely be a 4K LED.

    Seems like the power requirements to get enough brightness from tiny 4k plasma cells is prohibitive, so they figured it was time to move on from plasma. It's a shame 4k is the reason for this, because I personally wouldn't pay a nickel more for a 4k display over a 1080p display (at 65" or smaller).

     
  9. Oct 26, 2013 #29 of 123
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    So, the best TVs go the way of the best VCR, the Beta-Max. Sometimes our collective stupidity is almost too much to bear.

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  10. Oct 26, 2013 #30 of 123
    Steve

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    Seems that way. Maybe OLED will be as good, if regular LED doesn't get any better.
     
  11. Oct 31, 2013 #31 of 123
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    I'm about to rave about 4K. Have been full blown DirecTV user since 96. I have Comcast Cable too because of great discount with high speed Internet and phone service. For many years I have sought what seemed to be the best possible image that I could find. Sony's 4K TV and their player are here. They work beautifully. They have 55", 65", and 84". I have the 65... the one with speakers. I have been one of those over the top seekers of perfect home theater since the 50s and the first color TVs. This new TV is what I always knew would come... if I lived long enough. "Smart TV" means you can fetch wonderful stuff without so much effort. I have a full HD subscription to the Berlin Philharmonic and I can find just about any foreign TV program or movie I want... in full HD. This TV makes every image look better... at least everything that I want. Standard def, DVD, Blu-ray, 720p, 1080i, 1080p... and 4K. The 4K is not possible to describe. It can look like glassless window to the world. Just like any digital material... the bottom line quality depends on the chain of the process. 4K camera image skillfully delivered is as good as it gets in my lifetime. There will be more advancements, but 4K will blossom first. All of the pooh-poohing is invalid. It's always the same. Do we remember how recently we were told that DirecTV would never ever offer 1080p?

    Sony is selling 4K movies to us. Some have amazing images some are less impressive... but each recording is the best it has ever looked in my home. I'm looking forward to live sports in 4K and international arts programming in 4K. Oh... it WILL happen. But give me a break DirecTV and Sony... try make it soon. I think the TV and player are a great value. They have cut the 65" set-up by $1700.
     
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    Sounds great, Bob. More likely than not, my next will be a 4K, even though internet delivery is a major stumbling block.
     
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    It does sound great. I'm still not going to spend more than $2K for a TV set ever again (he said with tongue-in-cheek) no matter how good it is. I just bought a new Sammy BD player that upscales to 4K, can't really see any difference on a 1080p set.

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  14. Oct 31, 2013 #34 of 123
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    You shouldnt Rich, it isnt going to upscale to 4K on a display not capable of 4K....
     
  15. Oct 31, 2013 #35 of 123
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    I've briefly looked at the 4K sets in the stores but that experience means little to me until I can see one in a more typical viewing room (or my house). What I saw was definitely beautiful but motion scenes still do not look natural to me. Between that and black levels I will stay with my 60' Kuro and 65" VT Panasonic until I see something that can better them.

    Part of me wishes I were blissfully ignorant of how cartoonish the picture on many LCD (I refuse to call them LED) sets are when I walk into a friend's house and see them - it drives me crazy, but I've learned to remain silent about it.
     
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    Scott Kocourek

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    When I first set up my Sony tv everything looked like it was shot on green screen, we may be talking about the same thing. There were some enhancement settings that I had to turn off in order to make the picture look more life like, I assume many don't take the time to go through the menu and adjust or calibrate their tvs.
     
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    Yeah, I bet it's less than 5%..... And I haven't redone my Sammy plasma since I got it three years ago. Ooooops! Or maybe not. The color, sat., contrast seem just fine. I am sure only that they are not precisely the Pantone (or other) shades/hues that are reference.
     
  18. Nov 1, 2013 #38 of 123
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    I find it's usually when they have the "motion enhancement" settings (the name varies by manufacturer) enabled to try to eliminate motion blur. It's often called the soap opera effect and you are correct - most people take them out of the box and leave the default settings on. Of course a lot of people still think they are watching HD when it fact it's an SD signal and can't even tell the difference between the too. :hair:
     
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    I didn't think it would make any difference, but I thought I'd give it a shot. I was getting sick of the Sony 5100 BD player I was using and the Sammy was selling for $100 less on Amazon that day. Really nice BD player the Sammy is: BD-F7900.

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    Glad I'm not the only one that still calls them what they are. Yeah, I go to other people's homes and see their TVs and just marvel at how thrilled they are. Saw a 70" Sharp the other day in a house. Just kept my mouth shut. It WAS BIG, but that would have been my only positive comment.

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