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Katrina: Where are the offers for help?

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  1. Sep 1, 2005 #61 of 143
    AllieVi

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    Mexico foresaw this problem and has been providing the workers for many years. :lol:
     
  2. Sep 1, 2005 #62 of 143
    BuckeyeChris

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    This is not the case. News organizations such as AP and Reuters have foreign correspondents all over the world who are either natives or speak the local language(s). They report on international local news events all of the time. Newspapers and Internet news sites dedicate pages of information about foreign news -- so there is no shortage of international news outlets for Americans to monitor. And with the advent of the Internet and blogs, language is not the barrier to means of communication that it used to be.

    The bigger question is whether there are actual reports coming out of foreign locales that aren't being picked up by the wire services for whatever reason, or is there just no news to report about foreign reaction to Hurricane Katrina?
     
  3. Sep 1, 2005 #63 of 143
    Geronimo

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    I heard the mention of Eritrea on one of the news channels. I will admit that I can't find a link. Part of the problem is that very search on Eritrea and aid shows aid going TO them.

    While I still think i heard it (and was impressed) I will back off on it as I simply can't back the statement up. After all I was watching that funky moaaic thing on DISH home so I can't even tell you which news channel it was. Pretty lame on my part. I mean fora ll i know it was on E!
     
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    My understandng is that the word sorbet is French but the food item was first made in Persia and it was served as a drink. The Italians and some other europeans refined it and the french word somehow stuck.

    I believe that it has the same root as sherbet and both grew out of the same Persian desset. Either that or it isa hell of a coincience.


    i now return you to a discussion of International relief efforts.
     
  5. Sep 1, 2005 #65 of 143
    BobMurdoch

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    DannyR, thanks for the link to the "man on the street" story. Sometimes that can be enough to ease some of these feelings of quid pro quo I feel.

    It seems like no matter how much we ever give, it is never enough. And no matter how much we get hurt, we're always "rich" enough to fend for ourselves. (I don't think many of the people who couldn't leave Nawlins would consider themselves "rich").

    After 9/11 the outpouring of the world helped ease the pain many of us felt (especially here in the NY/NJ area.... my next door neighbor got out of the World Trade Center alive, but was never the same and wound up getting divorced).

    At this point I'm not expecting a lot of financial relief for the country, just a softening of the Anti-American rhetoric for a while.

    I agree that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are in a much better position to help matters, but they still can't help us address our refining capacity shortfall which was already strained to the breaking point when everything was working.

    I understand that the rebels would take solace in "Private Katrina" delivering a blow that they could not. It's the people we've given to that I expect more from. That means Tsunami victims, NATO, Iraq, Israel, and every other major country that has no problem holding out a hand for aid when THEY need assistance. Financial aid and resources is wonderful, and we should properly recognize all who give it, but I would hope that more of the world's leaders and media outlets would use the opportunity to help thaw relations and start healing some of the rifts that have developed over the last 4 years.
     
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    Bogy

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    Thanks for the link invalid. Probably the best help NO could receive are some Dutch engineers to teach Americans how to keep the sea out. (My mother's maiden name was DIKESTRA (originally, Dijkstra), in other words, my family helped build the dikes.)
     
  8. Sep 1, 2005 #68 of 143
    AllieVi

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    Thank you for helping make my point.

    The U.S. media filters the foreign news as best they can to appeal to what they believe Americans want to be exposed to in the short time allocated to any such coverage. In the process, average Americans aren't exposed to ideas and opinions that are common knowledge in other countries.

    The fact that it's possible to access such news via the Internet is a good thing, of course. But I doubt that many Americans get their foreign news that way. Even fewer are reading and understanding it in the native language with a foundation in the native culture.
     
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    FWIW, I talked to my brother in Budapest and he said that a lot of people have been asking him about what is going on and showing concern (they probably know that we were born and raised in N.O., though). Also, my brother is a very likable guy - guess I missed that boat! :D
     
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    Something that FOX has stated numerous times - they need more than one system of levees. I always had faith in the one we had (see pic to see how close to the river I lived). There where times when you could go in our front yard and see tankers higher than the roofs of the houses. You can drive a car along the top of most of them (there usually is a road). These were along the river, though and much stronger (and I believe regulated by the Army COE). The city levees (and other "local" levees) are not maintained by the ACOE).
     

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    Sure he does.
     
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    Jason Nipp

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    Aid is definately being offered. I believe as our society is so wonderfully diverse, I had felt that we were not so proud that we would not to allow other countries to help us, but it seems our president is too proud. After reading the below linked article, I am at a loss why Bush is so set against accepting aid. :nono2:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9161198/
     
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    Ya know what? To hell with all you guys!:mad:

    You cry and moan about how nobody cares or offers sympathy and comfort to US, and then when they do, you claim they don't mean it.:nono:

    Cuba is regularly lashed by hurricanes, often slowing down and weakening them before they hit Florida or the Gulf coast. They have first hand knowledge of what those effected are going through. The main difference being Cuba doesn't have as many Superdomes to take shelter in or as many helicopters to pick survivors off rooftops. And yet you declare they could not possibily empathize with the victims in LA, MS and AL.

    You're disgusting!:barf:
     
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    The news reports from New Orleans today has gotten disgusting :(

    We keep hearing from officials about all these plans to evacuate people, but it looks like barely anything has been done.

    It's pretty bad that the news is just there recording the people screaming for help with nothing being done.

    Why is there no food and water where everyone is gathered in New Orleans?
     
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    I grew up in New Orleans, and my family lives there still. Most vacated to Baton Rouge and there are 10 people and 4 children staying with a cousin in a 3 bedroom house. One brother's house, horses and farm were destroyed. We haven't found anything out about the other homes.

    My brother, an NOPD cop, stayed. I haven't heard from him since Tuesday, don't know if maybe his cell phone has discharged. Last I heard he was working out of a hospital and helping evac the patients and they were running out of fuel for the generators and siphoning fuel from cars in the parking lot. We got through to another cousin on the force in the same district, and late last night he said that he hadn't heard of anything bad happening to my brother, that's the best we've heard. My sister is a manager at a small hotel in the Quarter and is hold up there with several others and her husband. Unfortunately, she's having breathing problems (maybe made worse by the stress) and needs oxygen 24/7 and some national guard troops promised to pick up some tanks from a triage center and bring them back for her.

    A couple of my friends have not been heard from by anyone including their family, and it seems that they stayed in town and Lakeview (right near the 17th st levee breach) got some of the worst flooding, so all I can do is pray for them.

    You can watch local news feeds at:
    www.wwl.com
    www.wdsu.com

    FEMA and the national response has been a complete failure. How can there be no gasoline in three entire states???? Where's all the homeland security we've been paying for? I'm glad we weren't invaded, or it would take 4 days to mount a defense?

    I am in complete shock at the insensitive comments of Dennis Hastert and others. I am so thankful that Pres. Bush (being from neighboring Texas), the Democrats and most Republicans, do not share Mr. Hastert's callous idea. Mr. Hastert is a high ranking official, not some idiot reporter from Fox News, and his comments are not productive as people struggle to deal with the magnitude of this tragedy. What a disgusting and mean spirited thing to say about fellow Americans and American soil. Maybe Mr. Hastert should direct his idea of not rebuilding towards Iraq, and not the good Americans trying to cope in Louisiana. /sarcasm off
     
  18. Sep 1, 2005 #78 of 143
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    The answer to the question of this thread, "Where are the offers for help?", is that they are pouring in from all corners of the globe. But of course some of you are still bitching. I agree with Jonstad. This thread was started before other countries had a chance to do anything and now you still gripe and complain.
     
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    If we can take back Fallujah, Iraq, why can't we take back NO?

    As usual, he is late and feeble with his response to a disaster. It couldn't be because most of the victims are poor, black and presumably Democratic, could it?
     
  20. Sep 1, 2005 #80 of 143
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    I think that Clinton and the President as well as Bush Senior himself should take off thier ties when there addressing people in need they would look a lot more human than like Bankers.

    I think that all the Army, navy and airforce should be called into action immediately because in the next few days we will see people dying in mass numbers.

    It is beginning to look like a racial situation to me, I hope I am wrong!!!




    Bill
     
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