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Kerry Sex Scandal

Discussion in 'The OT' started by freakmonkey, Feb 12, 2004.

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  1. toenail

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    I'm really glad you said those two words, because in doing so you legitimized what is going on now. What's good for the goose.....

    http://drudgereport.com/mattht.htm
     
  2. JM Anthony

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    Up until a few weeks ago, I was pretty pessimistic about the next Presidential election. I too was beginning to think that all we'd hear from the R's was how great things were about to become and how much safer (from gays, 3rd world countries, etc.) we are these days. And just think how great things will be for our children's generation.

    But Dubya & Co. lately have been forced to go off message because nobody is buying it any more. I think this sex flap with Kerry will have a shelf life of maybe a week because there is enough recognition that our country is in one hell of a sorry state. Economic recovery hasn't hit the local level. And if Arnold doesn't get lucky with California's fiscal problems things will only get worse.

    One of my brothers in law, a very conservative life-long R said he'll be voting for a D because the R's are too powerful right now and are only screwing things up. One of the few times he and I have ever been on the same political page in 20 some years!
     
  3. freakmonkey

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  4. HappyGoLucky

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    However, with the Jennifer Fitzgerald story, the press let it go after a few days. Especially since simply because she asked the question, Tillotson of CNN had her White House press priviledges revoked, a death sentence to a reporter. From then on, reporters were afraid to ask anything because to do so might jeopardize their career. So much for "free press". And the Democrats in Congress never called for an investigation of Ms. Fitzgerald or her activities with the president, alone, in the White House, Air Force One, etc. There was never a multi-million dollar report containing all the salacious details of GHWB's daliance for everyone else to read about. Thus, the story never amounted to more than a blip on the radar.
     
  5. toenail

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    Do you honestly mean to tell me that if evidence surfaced today that GWB was having an affair that it would be buried???????????????? You've impressed me thus far as an intelligent man. That would change everything. Had there been a burgeoning internet back when the Fitzgerald story broke, you'd be seeing the same stuff that you're seeing today. Note that apparently no convincing evidence surfaced that their actually WAS an affair. The same may happen with Kerry. In fact, the girl has strongly denied that she was involved with him in any way. The point is, you jumped all over this like it was proof that the evil Republicans were up to their "usual" tricks, controlling the media and all, when the Dems had done exactly the same thing to Bush 1. That's called hypocrisy.
     
  6. HappyGoLucky

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    I never said the press would ignore something like GWB having an affair, I was simply referring to the question on why the Jennifer Fitzgerald affair did not garner the same attention.

    I have no doubt that the press and especially the Democrats in Congress would have a field day with such a scandal now. However, I lay the blame for that on the Republicans who wrote the book on dogging an issue by their relentless persuit of Clinton. Whether it is right or wrong (and I do happen to think it is wrong) the two parties are essentially at war with each other and the gloves are off. They've both basically forsaken running the government in order to carry out their war maneuvers against each other, which is the real scandal. But again, I think the first volley in the war was cast by the Republicans in 1992.

    As to Kerry, I think that issue will now die out as it should. Basically there really is no story , just wishful thinking from people like Drudge, Limbaugh, Rove, etc.
     
  7. Richard King

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    Sure, it's a right wing source, but the BBC (that right wing bastion) quoted The Washington Post London correspondent Glenn Frankel (another of those darn right wingers) as saying the following about the Kerry story:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3493277.stm
    "Even if someone came to us with photographs we still wouldn't run it."
     
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  9. Bogy

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    how many of you would describe "last October" as being "recently"? So much for the level of accuracy in Drudge's reporting.
     
  10. HappyGoLucky

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    Yes, and considering that is where her fiance is from and his parents live there...
     
  11. toenail

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    Just to show that I'm not a slave of the right-wingers, I will remind you of something that no one has mentioned for quite awhile. I have a vague recollection that after the Monica scandal broke, and in the midst of all of the bimbo eruptions, a story briefly appeared on Drudge indicating the possibility that Clinton had fathered a black child. It turned out, of course, that the story was totally baseless. This isn't the first time that Drudge ran way too soon with a story.
     
  12. HappyGoLucky

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    To me, it just seems that ever since the Republicans lobbed that first volley at Clinton back in '92, things have progressively gotten worse. Now both parties try to outdo the other in digging up the slightest bit of dirt they can use as a weapon against the other. They'll both resort to manufacturing stuff if they can't find the real thing. They'll exaggerate, obfuscate, denigrate. I do have to say that the Republican shills like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc. are the worst since they far outnumber their more liberal counterparts, but both sides are guilty. Now it seems politicians are less interested in what's best for the country and their constituents and more interested in how they can stick it to somebody else or make sure their opponent gets less votes and money than do they. Congressmen are now in the business of getting re-elected and not in the business of actually running the government.
     
  13. Richard King

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    On this we can agree. As I have stated here many times before, I am a strong advocate of doing away with government pensions for any elective Federal office. These people claim that they run to "serve the public", let them prove it by eliminating the pensions. Put the low lifes on the same terms as most people, that is, Social Security and their own IRA plans contributed to by themselves with no matching. If this were done at least some of the incentive to stay in office at all cost would be removed and, who knows, Social Security might even remain solvent.
     
  14. Bogy

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    Remember the Republicans who ran against the "career politicians in the Gingrich years? They came to Washington to make sweeping changes, and they were all in favor of term limits. They promised the voters they would only serve for one or two terms, and then they were going home. Now they're the biggest pom-pom wavers for "consistance" in office and argue with passion how Washington runs on seniority.
     
  15. Richard King

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    It would be interesting to go back and see who spoke the loudest about term limits and of those who did how many are still hanging around. Bogy... there's your homework assignment. :D
     
  16. toenail

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    The only politician in Minnesota who comes to mind when discussing such folk is Paul Wellstone. He railed on about term limits, and promised he would set his OWN term limit of two terms. Then when the time ran, SURPRISE! He decided that an exception to the general rule was to be applied: if you're "too important" to the well-being of the country then you have to stay on. Guess who he decided was too important??? :grin:
     
  17. Nick

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    Well, one thing fer shure -- the dredge report is just that: dredge

    BTW, did you hear about the attractive, 34 year old woman taking a public tour of the White House who mysteriously disappeared from the tour line?

    "According to reports, she was found 45 minutes later by Secret Service agents in a small side-hallway restroom, just inside the guarded entrance to the west wing. Although no "official" report of the incident has been found, rumors circulated that the woman was found sobbing, saying that she was separated from the tour line, got lost in the maze of hallways and was directed to a small restroom by an unidentified staffer. Why the woman was crying was not been determined.

    After questioning in W-16, the Secret Service post located near the Oval Office in the west wing, the unidentified woman was taken out the 17th St entrance, placed in a government vehicle and was driven to St. Elizabeth's Hospital, a mental institution in Washington, D.C. Since the woman's identity is still unknown, reporters and private investigators have not been able to determine anything about the woman, where she came from, or where she is now.

    Secret Service officials denied the incident had ever occured, except to say that it was nothing more than an unfounded rumor. Officials refused to provide incident reports, tour reservation records or attendance lists, or to cooperate with reporters in any way."

    The identity or whereabouts of the mystery woman was never determined.
     
  18. Richard King

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    Well, there's one, although I think that all this shows is that the hypocrisy is on both sides and sort of ruins Bogy's thesis. I do have to admit though that the Republicans talked up term limits alot more than the Dems did, but then I wouldn't expect the party that is IN power to talk up term limits.
     
  19. toenail

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    The latest report indicates that she told doctors at the psych ward that some guy, who looked familiar to her, accosted her in the restroom. He kept chanting: "I should still be President! I should still be President!" BTW, he accosted her with a cigar. :grin:
     
  20. Bogy

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    Nah, I heard it was a guy in cowboy boots with a Texas twang, who just kept saying "Trust me". :D
     
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