Ku-Band Satellite channel listings (1997)

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  1. JosephH1998

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    +KyL416 so what was Ku-Band Satellite being used for in the US & Canada? also what was Anik E2 (C Band/Ku Band) being used for at the time, Canadian feeds? (it doesn't say on the archived page since they don't have it archived)
     
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  2. KyL416

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    For DirecTV it came from one of the DBS satellites at 101
    For DirecTV Puerto Rico it came from one of the Galaxy satellites at 95
    For Dish it came from one of the Echostar satellites at 119
    Primestar was using GE2 at 85
    ExpressVu and Star Choice were initially sharing Anik E2 at 107.3, before ExpressVu moved to Nimiq 1 at 91 in 1999
     
  3. JosephH1998

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    so Ku-Band was used on Dish, DirecTV, Primestar, ExpressVu (Canada), and StarChoice (Canada), but what about the ABC Network Backup feeds (West/East coast) as well as NBC's? (West/Mountain/Pacific/East coast) Which of the satellites were being used for Ku-Band in '97 aside from GE-1 (used for NBC feeds), GE-2, Galaxy III, Spacenet 3R (for Boston/Dallas/Los Angeles/New York/Atlanta/Boston feeds), Telstar 402R (also used by AlphaStar until its demise in Aug. 1997 and for Florida feeds), Telstar 5 (used for Buena Vista TV, Fox/20th Century Fox TV, UPN and ABC feeds), Galaxy 4 (used for WB Network, UPN/Paramount and CBS feeds until its demise after the G4 communications failure in May 1998), Anik E1 & E2 (used for Canadian feeds) and Echostar/DBS? (used for Dish & Primestar feeds)
     
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    They networks are on both C-Band and Ku-Band, and still are. Although some now offer direct fiber links as well that can be customized by the network for the individual station based on when they air shows and which games they air for regionalized content.

    ABC also has a bunch of additional feeds for the things I described. Mornings are split between timezones since GMA starts at 7am in every time zone, while daytime was even more chaotic in the pre-View days when ABC couldn't get a stable show at the 11am ET/10am PT slot and still had a soap in the noon ET/11am PT slot that was increasingly getting delayed or pre-empted entirely for newly launching noon newscasts.
     
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  5. JosephH1998

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    well where there any ABC affiliates Ku-Band carried including the West/East feeds (KABC Los Angeles/WABC New York) and the Spacenet 3R stations (WFAA Dallas/Ft. Worth, WJLA/Washington D.C. (also used as a PT24 feed until it was replaced by WKRN Nashville in Nov. 1997), WCVB Boston, WLS Chicago, WPLG Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, WSB Atlanta (same satellite as WXIA), WTAE Pittsburgh, KNXV Phoenix, KTVX Salt Lake City & KGO San Francisco etc...) aside from that?
     
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    I'll do the rest of the networks circa 1996-1997:
    CBS:
    DirecTV: WRAL/Raleigh and KPIX/San Francisco
    DirecTV Puerto Rico: WCBS
    Dish: WSEE/Erie and KPIX/San Francisco
    Primestar: WUSA/DC and KOIN/Portland
    ExpressVu: WBZ/Boston and KIRO/Seattle
    Star Choice: WIVB/Buffalo, WWJ/Detroit, KREM/Spokane and KIRO/Seattle

    ABC:
    DirecTV: WJLA/DC and KOMO/Seattle
    DirecTV Puerto Rico: WABC
    Dish: WKRN/Nashville and KOMO/Seattle
    Primestar: WSB/Atlanta and KABC
    ExpressVu: WCVB/Boston and KOMO/Seattle
    Star Choice: WKBW/Buffalo, WXYZ/Detroit, KXLY/Spokane and KOMO/Seattle

    Fox:
    DirecTV: Foxnet
    DirecTV Puerto Rico: WNYW/New York
    Dish: Foxnet
    Primestar: WTXF/Philadelphia and KTVU/San Francisco
    ExpressVu: WFXT/Boston and KCPQ/Seattle
    Star Choice: WUHF/Rochester, KAYU/Spokane and KCPQ/Seattle

    PBS:
    DirecTV: PBS National Feed
    Dish: PBS National Feed
    Primestar: PBS National Feed
    ExpressVu: WGBH/Boston and KCTS/Seattle
    Star Choice: WTVS/Detroit, KSPS/Spokane and KCTS/Seattle


    No one really carried WB or UPN as a DNS station, but up until 1999 the national WGN feed had WB programming along with a Kids WB block on Sunday Mornings instead of Saturdays, while Dish and the Canadian providers had them via the superstations WSBK/Boston, KTLA/Los Angeles, WWOR/New York, WPIX/New York and KWGN/Denver

    These are all from the same orbital slots/sats as the other ones.
     
  7. JosephH1998

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    Oh, well what was Ku-Band Satellite being used for at the time? (1997) were there any Ku-Band programming providers?
     
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    The only direct to consumer providers were the satellite providers. The rest of the KU content was random network feeds, news backhaul feeds for reports and interviews via satellite, syndicated prefeeds, random statewide PBS stations like KET, the Channel One News service for schools, and random retail stuff like the internal promotional channel department stores like Macy's had on their TVs.

    The influx of a bunch of free to air religious and ethnic channels on Ku-Band didn't come until the 00s.
     
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    I get it, but what about "The WB Network" which was relatively small (had only 3 nights on Sundays, Mondays and Wednesdays) w/ several shows (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Seventh Heaven, Unhappily Ever After, The Steve Harvey Show, Jamie Foxx, The Wayans Bros., Sister, Sister, Nick Freno: Licensed Teacher, The Parent' Hood, Smart Guy, newcomers like The Tom Show & Alright Already etc...) as with the "WB Network" feeds shared with Warner Bros. Television (for their syndicated & daytime programming), and used for "primetime programming" and "promo loops", which was carried on G4 TP7 (before moving to Galaxy 6 (which was limited to C-Band viewers), after the G4 communications failure in May 1998). and KTLA-5 (Los Angeles), WPIX-11 (New York) which was on their "Spacenet 3" feeds. were there any other WB stations that the Ku-Band feeds could receive?
     
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    The syndicated by WB TV Distribution content came from seperate wild feeds, they didn't share with the WB Network feeds.

    After that G4 failure, the affected networks were quickly uplinked to another satellite the same day and didn't face any major problems that viewers would notice, but it was an all hands on deck situation at the local affiliates who needed to reconfigure their receivers and/or reaim their dish if they didn't have a dish farm that received multiple satellite slots. The only slightly extended problems involved pager networks and the digital audio service that was on it, I think DMX. Locally Cablevision used them as background music on their On Cablevision/Optimum guide channel and other info channels like Swap & Shop and the Photo Ad Channel, so in the interim they used VH1's audio for a few days until they were able to restore the DMX audio.
     
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    +KyL416 well but what about The WB Network feeds carried on Galaxy 4 TP7 back in 1997, as well as WPIX 11 New York and KTLA 5 Los Angeles (both owned by Tribune Broadcasting) carried on their "Spacenet 3R" feeds? (also GE-3 replaced Spacenet 3R by late 1999) These are the list of affiliates & markets that appeared on the "Spacenet 3R" feed at the time:
    Old cable lineups - Page 3
    not many WB or UPN affiliates were on there (Spacenet 3R)
     
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  12. JosephH1998

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    Well continuing with our conversation, aside from Los Angeles, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Dallas-Ft. Worth, New York City, Chicago, Boston, Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, Atlanta, Pittsburgh & San Francisco which markets did the "Spacenet 3R" feeds carry?
    (the only WB affiliates that carried news divisions in '97 were KTLA/Los Angeles (which received a branding overhaul that fall), KWGN/Denver, WGN/Chicago, WPIX/New York City, WPHL/Philadelphia, WLVI/Boston, KPLR/St. Louis, WKCF/Orlando & KPWB/Sacramento (which was renamed KMAX-TV the following year & affiliated with UPN) etc....) The topic continues here:
    WB Affiliates on Ku-Band (1997)
     
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