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L4.48 Software Experiences/Bugs Discussion

Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by Ron Barry, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. Dec 5, 2007 #21 of 178
    Rob Glasser

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    This is one of those changes will never please everyone. Some like the banner there and some do not. I'm in the camp that does not want the banner. When I have PIP up and running I know the 2 shows I have up. I don't need to see a banner telling me what I'm already watching each time I swap them.
     
  2. Dec 5, 2007 #22 of 178
    Ron Barry

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    I would say I am in Rob's camp and don't consider this change dump at all. Most people use the PIP swap to toggle between two shows they are watching and having the banner pop up as I jump between two programs I already know what I am watching was annoying. I like the tweak and think most PIP swap user will find it a nice little piece of polish.

    Ofcourse there will be some that won't.
     
  3. Dec 5, 2007 #23 of 178
    lujan

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    I agree, if you are using PIP, you already know what you're watching. Also, it's easy enough to press "Cancel" to get information on the show.
     
  4. Dec 6, 2007 #24 of 178
    KB14

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    Still have not received the update, what's taking so long?
     
  5. Dec 6, 2007 #25 of 178
    Ron Barry

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    Roll outs are usually down in a phases so that is something bad is found in the field it does not effect all people in the field. My guess is this is what is happening and it can take up to 2 to 3 weeks to roll out software on some receivers. There is no way to force the update and it is definitely a patience is a virtue situation.
     
  6. Dec 6, 2007 #26 of 178
    tomcrown1

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    !Devil_lol The S L O W Roll Out is A BUG:sure:
     
  7. Dec 6, 2007 #27 of 178
    Ron Barry

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    I am sure that is a joke tomcrown1.. Definitely it is not a bug but is a sound software deployment principle for this type of architecture and deployment situation.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2007 #28 of 178
    KB14

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    That's a bummer, guess I'll have to wait awhile to really use my Archos
     
  9. Dec 6, 2007 #29 of 178
    4bama

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    Got L448 Tuesday morning and all seems OK... I was hoping DISH added the s/w to support locals on the 8's but not yet... My 508 works great for this feature.
     
  10. Dec 6, 2007 #30 of 178
    tomcrown1

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    Ron yes it is a joke I know i was one of those cry babies who drank red whine everytime I did not get an update.

    I fine that it is better not to be one of the first ones to get an update as the cure can be worse than the problem.:grin:
     
  11. Dec 6, 2007 #31 of 178
    SingleAction

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    This latest SW has really messed up my VIP622!

    Last nite, in the middle of watching a show from the EHD, the receiver just locked up.

    I couldn't even shut it down, just had to pull the plug. Sounds familiar( windows 98).

    Today I watched one show again on the EHD, and it was fine. Went to watch another, and it studdered both video and audio. I thought for sure everything on that drive was corrupted.

    Until I went to watch something on the internal drive, samething, then I went to live tv, samething!

    I had to do a hard reset again. So far so good, but I'm not going to be a happy camper if this is going to become a situation on a daily basis.

    Talking about M$, and their auto updates, they let you delete the offending update, and restore the system(XP,Vista) to a time when it was working properly.

    I think that if my receiver is working fairly well, and something they download creates havoc, I should be able to delete it!
     
  12. Dec 6, 2007 #32 of 178
    SingleAction

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    Update! I just finished watching a show on the EHD, and went back to live tv.

    Black screen of death!

    No picture, and no sound, but the two red lights are on, showing that the 2 timers are still working!

    This is the worse fix for problems I never had!
     
  13. Dec 7, 2007 #33 of 178
    beaucop

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    When oh when will an update fix the HDMI issues that so many are experiencing?? I'm very near to switching to D-TV!
     
  14. Dec 7, 2007 #34 of 178
    wje

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    Lots of luck on that. HDMI problems are why I left D* in the first place. Strangely enough, the HR10 had the same broken connector problems the 622 has had.

    The compatibility problems aren't necessarily all E*'s fault. Every vendor has had problems with HDMI, because the original spec was, shall we say, less than specific about a number of things.
     
  15. Dec 7, 2007 #35 of 178
    Ron Barry

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    Yes I would Echo wje. I went back beaucop and looked at your previous posts to get a picture of what your situation is. From what I can see.

    You are on your 4th 622. First one rebooted with HDMI, 2nd failed after short period. 3rd lasted longer, 4th had a picture until software went from install image to full version.

    I also looked and could not find a post indicating the make and model of your TV. This is always helpful because perhaps someone else has the same set and could provide their experiences.

    Not sure if you have checked for and TV firmware upgrades. If not, something definitely worth checking. The 4th experience definitely indicates that there is something going on between your TV and the 622 and does not necessarily mean the 622 is at fault. Other possibility is that the version that downloaded into the box could be more strict in terms of HDMI and therefore what was allowed is no longer allowed or it could be a 622 software issue. Either one are equally possible.

    Also you mention a switch in a post. Have you tried bypassing the switch to see if get a picture? A software update could possible exposed an issue that a previous version was letting slide by.

    I guess bottom line. With your posts I don't have a lot of details.. More details the better and perhaps you get get close to the issue you are experiencing.
     
  16. Dec 7, 2007 #36 of 178
    Ken Green

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    The Tech Update notes describe this as a "partial phase," which means some receivers will get it, and others will not. I'd guess if you haven't received it by now, your receiver was probably not targeted in this rollout phase. :)
    One of my 622's updated to 4.48, the other remained on 4.47.

    Oh, and the PiP Banner....buh-bye....IMO a waste of screen space. Personally, I found it very annoying.
     
  17. Dec 7, 2007 #37 of 178
    beaucop

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    Ron, thanks for the response. I feel you sense my frustration. Yes, I tried direct connect and it still doesn't work. And Dish will not send me a new receiver since it appears to be a software problem.

    I have a BENQ 8700 projector. My cable is HDMI-DVI. I do have a switch, and my HD-DVD player's HDMI works fine. As I said in one of my previous posts, when I received this receiver, the HDMI worked fine until the software updated, then failed.

    I have a pretty good picture with component cables, but it was always a better picture with HDMI.

    Again, thanks for your interest and inquiry. Sometimes I feel forgotten by Dish while doling out over $100/month for their service.
     
  18. Dec 8, 2007 #38 of 178
    adk0212

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    I have a BenQ 8720 which has worked great with my 622 thru all sw revs (had it for about 18 months now). A buddy of mine has a BenQ 8700 and is not experiencing any problems like you describe, either. Both of us do have scalers in the signal chain, though, so the data stream is not direct from the 622 to the projector.

    One thing to keep in mind is cable quality. Cable runs tend to be long(er) in projector installations, and HDMI is very sensitive to signal degradation. I had a flakey low-price HDMI cable once that gave no end of bizarre problems. Also, have you ruled out the HDMI-DVI adapter (if it's not part of the cable)? Miswiring or flakey connection there could be a problem.
     
  19. Dec 8, 2007 #39 of 178
    Ron Barry

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    I would definitely try and rule out the switch as a possibility. Also, have you tried all resolutions and are you getting the same problem. Do you have a long run? If so a good test would be to bring the 622 next to the projector go direct and see if you get a picture. If you do, then you know that there is something odd going on in your installation. Wish there was a BenQ 8700 install with a direct connect to pipe in and give their thoughts.

    Another thing to try on your HDMI switch is to try swapping ports. I have read where this has worked with various devices. Does not make sense but something worth trying.
     
  20. Dec 8, 2007 #40 of 178
    MNipper

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    OK. This may not have started with 4.48 (as I'm somewhat new to using an external drive, and it could have been in previous releases, too), but I figure that it should be reported, and hopefully E* can fix this.

    I had tried to delete a couple of recordings that I'd archived from my 622, and was unable to delete them. There are no errors during the delete process. It asks for the confirmation, and goes off like it's going to delete it, but when it's done, the recording is still there. (I have deleted other records, with no issues, prior to this problem cropping up.) These recordings play just fine, from the external drive.

    I subsequently transferred several of these back to the receiver, thinking that would also delete them (like it normally does), but it did not. (Again, they transferred fine, and play fine. It's not like they are corrupted, or anything of that nature.)

    BUT... what I noticed when I got them copied back to the receiver is that I had Protected each of the "problem" recordings (when I originally recorded them).

    My suspicion is that it's not deleting them (from the external media), because they were protected when they were originally copied there.

    Of course, when you archive them, you get no visibility to (or ability to use) Protection, so it's not like you can just "turn it off" on the external recording.

    Anyway, this is really annoying. If it's going to honor protection (externally), then it should provide the interface necessary to manage it. I have no idea (yet) whether there's a work-around for this, but I'm going to experiment with trying to reset the flag, while it's on the receiver, and then try to copy it back to the external drive. I've never tried to copy something to the drive, that was already there. Obviously if it just doubles up the recording, then it won't help. If it will replace the previous "protected" version (with the unprotected version), then maybe that will allow me to delete it. But regardless of whether that works, or not, this is something that needs to be fixed in the code.

    I did a bit of searching, and couldn't find this mentioned (but might have missed something). I'm curious if anyone else has seen this issue, or not?

    Thanks for your help & input.
     

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