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Lakers New Regional TV Network - NOW ON THE AIR

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kb24sd, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Oct 3, 2012 #561 of 2097
    JoeTheDragon

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    But in canada due to laws it can't be exclusive and In the us the cable co maybe able to push for new laws to end the exclusive part.
     
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    Hoosier205

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    Federal legislation against a single company exclusive unlike any other? No one wanted Sunday Ticket except DirecTV. DirecTV bid for the rights and has done so ever since.
     
  3. Oct 3, 2012 #563 of 2097
    Grafixguy

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    There might be a case here if local areas were affected by ST but they're not. This is strictly an out of market package. Not one local market is affected.
     
  4. Oct 3, 2012 #564 of 2097
    Hoosier205

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    There is absolutely no case for it. It was available for everyone to bid on. DirecTV has the rights to it.
     
  5. Oct 3, 2012 #565 of 2097
    maartena

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    Just because you didn't see it, it didn't mean it didn't happen. I am telling you, I tuned in for the Angels game on 692, and it was blacked out. Low and behold, it was on ESPN.

    Angel's 2012 schedule had 150 games on Fox Sports West, 12 games divided by national Fox and ESPN - obviously I caught one of those 12 games as the 692 channel was.... black, dark, no alternative programming, nothing.

    Edit: It was this game for the record: http://espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=320919103
     
  6. Oct 3, 2012 #566 of 2097
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    What the other poster was implying, I think, is that the NFL would like a bunch of distributors to carry NFL ST. If I am wrong on that interpretation, the poster can correct me. CBS, ESPN, FOX, NBC might have a few things to say about expansion of the product along with their billions of dollars they are paying to the NFL and the money they receive from their advertisers.
     
  7. Oct 3, 2012 #567 of 2097
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    Magic owns a sliver of the team. He most certainly doesn't run the team, he is the PR face of the team. That same Bud Selig you say doesn't like Fox is the same Bud Selig who just extended their contract with Fox for a ton of money.

    I have no doubt TWC wants the Dodger rights, they need more rights. On the flip side, Fox needs to secure their content for their channels after losing the Lakers. Again, I'll be very surprised if Fox loses them. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but I will be surprised.
     
  8. Oct 3, 2012 #568 of 2097
    Sandra

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    Well even if it were just two channels...then yes, two channels. It was never that way before.

    It's not just two channels, however...Pac-12 is more than two channels alone, Longhorn Network, ESPN Goal Line and it's basketball equivalent (whose name escapes me), Comcast Northwest....missing most of an NHL season of games on Versus...GolTV disappearing from the sports pack last month...and now there is serious concern over the new Time Warner LA channel and Comcast Houston.

    Listen I am not here to bash DirecTV or claim I will leave over this or that...with or without those channels mentioned above, DirecTV is by far the best option out there. I spend a lot of money on DirecTV sports...a LOT of money...and I would pay more to get the networks mentioned above.

    I'm just saying you used to be able to count on DirecTV getting virtually any sports channel available to them....and now it's not quite like that anymore.

    That is all.


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  9. Oct 3, 2012 #569 of 2097
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    Nah, politics is too "free market" oriented to start regulating such things. It's same with medicine. A medicine that costs $40 co-pay here because it is still in its 10 year "cost recoup" period, costs $5 in Canada because Canada says: "If you want your medicine to be on our market, you HAVE to let competitors make the same formula." So you can get the pharmacy house brand for a fraction of the cost, while we Americans still pay through the nose for the same. (Same in the EU by the way, I can give you a long story about this but lets not derail this topic).

    This country is BUILT on free market enterprise, and NFL Exclusivity is a prime example of such free market enterprise. We'll have to see if they will go for exclusivity in 2014, but don't count on politics intervening and imposing laws on such things. It's really not needed either in this case, if NFL wants other providers, that is what they will put in their contract in 2014. You can bet your behind that DirecTV isn't going to outright lose NFL Sunday Ticket in 2014, so they will have to agree to those terms if NFL wants it.
     
  10. Oct 3, 2012 #570 of 2097
    Hoosier205

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    PAC-12 Network: just launched

    Longhorn Network: Very little content

    Comcast Northwest: Comcast is being accused of negotiating in bad faith with massive rate increases. Even the Blazers are upset with them.

    Versus: Comcast strikes again. It was seen as a win by DirecTV.

    GolTV: They lost the vast majority if their content to other channels.

    Time Warner: No one has signed a deal for it.

    CSN Houston: No one, aside very small local providers, has signed a deal for it.

    You'd be mistaken if you believed there was a time when DirecTV agreed to carry every sports channel without batting an eye. They have never carried every sports channel that launched. They carry a higher percentage of available sports channels than ever before.
     
  11. Oct 3, 2012 #571 of 2097
    Sandra

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    Let's see how it works when we use spin in the other direction. ;)

    It's launched and it's not on DirecTV

    It has content I would watch

    Yes DirecTV did accuse them of that

    It was a loss for a hockey fan who missed most of an entire season of Versus games

    GolTV still has the German Bundesliga, Brazil and Argentina leagues as well as other South American leagues. And also some very good soccer news and discussion shows that they went through the effort of translating into English.

    It's still a very good channel for soccer fans and it was taken out of the sports pack for reasons I cannot fathom.

    Including DirecTV. Time will tell.

    Including DirecTV. Time will tell.

    What channels have they not carried in the past?


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  12. Oct 3, 2012 #572 of 2097
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    It will be once a fair deal is reached.

    Doesn't change the fact that they broadcast very little.

    They aren't the only ones. Other providers, the Blazers, and legislators have been very concerned with the Comcast negotiating standards.

    Sure was. It's too bad Comcast put people in that position by demanding far too much. DirecTV won out in the end, as did their customers.

    They lost their prime content and substantial value.

    Plenty. I had a list, but I'll have to locate it.
     
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    I'm just going to stick by my original statement that DirecTV used to pick up virtually every sports channel available to them, and now they do not. You can rationalize each channel, but as a whole my point still stands.

    I'm not going to debate something like GolTV, whose content you do not like...but I like a lot. To each his (or her) own.

    And I'm a DirecTV customer who does not feel like I won the DirecTV/Versus battle. I feel like I lost games...lots of them.

    Your opinion may differ and that's awesome...but you're not changing my opinioin.


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  15. Oct 3, 2012 #575 of 2097
    Hoosier205

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    That isn't factual, but do as you wish.
     
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    Spot on. Saying that Bud Selig has issues with Fox shows no understanding of the relationship between Fox and MLB, both on the regional and national level.

    TWC may well land the Dodgers, but the involvement of Magic Johnson certainly won't swing the deal in TWC's direction. It's all about money, and Fox can't lose the Dodgers at this point without gutting one of their LA based RSNs. So, the Dodgers are worth more to Fox than TWC.
     
  17. Oct 3, 2012 #577 of 2097
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    One thing only will decide where the Dodgers end up, and that's money. MLB rejected the first deal because of McCourt, not FOX. They have no issue with FOX.
     
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    inkahauts

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    That's not true. If someone has Sunday Tackett, there is a good chance they are not watching a game on their local, hence they are directly affected. Sunday ticket has a direct affect on local numbers, which is why they don't want wide distribution.
     
  19. Oct 3, 2012 #579 of 2097
    inkahauts

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    That makes no sense. They don't have a national exclusive on games during the week that I know of, and I haven't seen my DVR record any espn game for the Angels in September during the week, and I always put the games on in the background, so I wonder if that was some weird technician issue. I am telling you they don't schedule games on a local RSN if they are going to be blacked out due to a national exclusive broadcast. I don't know of any sport that does that, and have never seen it.

    Maybe sat racer knows, but I have never heard of such a thing.
     
  20. Oct 3, 2012 #580 of 2097
    inkahauts

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    The only way magic could have an affect is if both FOX and twc offered the exact same deal, line by line, top to bottom for everything. They'd they'd sign with twc because of magics relationship with the twc guy, maybe. You have to remember that FOX has a relationship right now with the Dodgers as it is.
     

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