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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kb24sd, Jul 1, 2012.
If TWCSN is available through LP, I'll sign up! That's what I'm waiting for. I need my Stu!
Single team channels need to go the way of the dodo. The entire situation is a farce.
San Berdoo (San Bernardino?) is still within the Lakers DMA, which means that even with League Pass, you will not be able to see Lakers coverage (either home or away) if it is not being carried nationally on ESPN, ABC, or TNT.
D* needs to carry TWC-SN for D* customers within the Lakers DMA to see the non-nationally televised games.
As bad as the Pirates are they drew 2,091.918 fans for an average of 26,148 pergame. In 2010 (i left out 2011 because of the short season) the lakers drew 778,887 for an average of 18,997 per game. Los Angeles and their market is a lot bigger than Pittsburgh, but its basketball, and as much as you may not like it basketball still trails baseball in popularity.
Time Warner Cable faces tough defense for Lakers channels
Really? Then why did you spend $3 billion to start two sports networks?
Sorry no, I ripped off "San Berdoo" from the Fletch movie...
Just curious, are TWC subs paying extra for these channels?
I don't know that that's entirely fair. PNC Park has nearly double the capacity of Staples Center. The level of passion that LA has for the Lakers - and make no mistake the Lakers are THE team in LA - they would avg 27k or more fans per game. The lakers sell out. The pirates do not.
Both channels are included in the basic tier ($29.95). Other sports channels, such as Pac-12, NFL Network, NBA TV, NHL, Tennis, etc. are on an add-on tier. ($10.00 extra)
It's not a single team channel. The Lakers are simply their most important franchise.
Not a dime. But like any provider, prices will always increase some time 1st quarter.
No. TWC is going to charge DTV $3.95 whether DTV takes one of the channels or two. Consider the Spanish channel a throw-in, they won't say that but it's what is happening.
OK, let's get serious. The Sparks. The Galaxy? I'm talking about major sports, the big 4 sports. Root Pittsburgh has college football and other programming as well.
Of the MAJOR sports, Root Pittsburgh will carry north of 220 games, the TWC channel 57 games. Root Pittsburgh is cheaper than TWC. TWC is lying when they say they pay DTV more for Root Sports unless they are trying to be coy and are adding all three Root Sports Channels which is as dishonest as the day is long.
The Lakers are big, but in a sport (NBA) that is 3rd of the big 4 in terms of revenue.
That goes both ways. There are only 41 home games for basketball but 81 for baseball. Availability of games (more QTY) and a larger venue make it more difficult to sell out. In other words, fewer baseball games would probably mean larger crowds per game. If the Lakers played 81 games in a larger building they may not sell out every game.
Scarcity of supply drives this stuff as well. There's a reason that most NFL games sell out, even by terrible teams. With only 8 games at home, each game is precious and in demand. The supply of games is limited.
I see TWC has disabled comments to that page now since 100% of them were slamming TWC and their lying claims.
Well, I was talking about tv viewing, not attendance. As others say, your comparing the Lakers selling out every single game in a venue that doesn't have nearly as many seats and nearly as many games. And the pIrates tickets are way way cheaper than Lakers tickets. Its difficult to compare.. But, if you really want to see some numbers...
The Lakers are easily the most valuable team in the NBA.
They would be around the 25th most valuable in the NFL, which is easily the richest league...
However, they would be third in the MLB, behind only the Yankees, Dodgers (and lets face it, that valuse is ridiculously overshot due to the mccourt fiasco auctioning of the team), and the Red Sox, although they may catch the red sox this year with this new tv deal, we will see...
And they are worth $379 million more than the most valuable franchise in the entire NHL.
The Lakers are not like other teams, they are the DOMINANT team around here, that's not even a debate. Why do you think Magic has said that one of his goals is to make the Dodgers as popular and important to the city as the Lakers are? That after seeing the Angles win the world series, the Ducks and Kings win the Stanley Cup. The dodgers pray they can get back on top, but its 50/50 if they could ever become the undisputed top dog again. I don't even think a NFL team could say they where top dog until after they won multiple championships in this town, not in terms of true popularity. Why do you think the Rams and Raiders left? That weren't top dogs....
Are they going to not reup with fox the next time that contract is up? If not, then I don't see how they can say they are going to gain anything here. Fox isn't going to lower how much they are asking for their channels, unless TWC can actually get the dodgers. All the other major teams are locked up for quite a while to fox though, so I think its pure hogwash from TWC. Unless they dump other fox stations, they will gain nothing.
Because the L.A. market will only support a winner except for the Dodgers they always draw well. I don't understand why the NFL is so insistent about putting another team here. The Lakers are wildly popular and they win consistently.
Boy that's for sure;
And when you add in the cost of the nationals and the potential upcoming TV deal for the Dodgers, according to the following 10/25 article the cost could crack over $20.00 per sub just for LA area sports alone. :eek2:
Ridicules ... :nono:
By Steve Donohue --- Fierce Cable Newsletter --- Editors Corner
SportsNet, MSG disputes highlight Time Warner Cable's evolving views on sports tiers.
I also note TWC's hypocrisy in trying to holdout on carriage of MSG in favor of a sports tiering structure as well.
My market (Nielsen #22, Portland) is spread out horribly. Our NBA team (Trailblazers) is on Comcast, the college teams (Oregon, Oregon State) are on PAC-12 and the MLB (Mariners) and NFL (Seahawks) teams are on Root.
IIRC, DIRECTV carries only Root. DISH carries Root and Pac-12 and Comcast carries all three.