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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kb24sd, Jul 1, 2012.
And will probably stay that way at least until the deal is up.
That's what what I am saying, they may have. They don't change channels from one package to another until the new year when they increase their fees generally, so I think we'll know then.
And when do you suppose the deal with itself is up? All they are doing is transfering cash from the left pocket to the right pocket and laughing at all these suckers along the way!
They make it sound like they are so underwater, poor Directv. They are (now) charging MORE than what Root Sports is worth and Root costs have gone way down!!! No Pac 12, they are showing high school football!
Seems to me that this contract with itself for inflated dollars will continue - why would they want it to end? They sucked us all in!
By way Directv should see some massive earnings growth. By now most of 24 month free HD promos have expired and so that's another $10 per customer per month. People forget how quickly that revenue item has just been absorbed without much fanfare!
I would not say that overall, but in Los Angeles, yep. At the moment they suck for sports fans in Los Angeles. It saddens me to say that.
Why not overall? Dish figured out how to charge less monthly than Direct and carry the Pac 12 Network? Time Warner, Comcast, and other cable companies are carrying it as well. Tell me how in the world my bill with Dish is $15 less a month and I get all the channels I want/need (and then some)? (except for ESPNU in HD) I was forced by Directv to walk away.
In LA several providers have figured it out already on the Laker channel.
In my honest opinion, unless you are a NFL lover and need the Sunday Ticket (many do), why on earth stay with Directv? They offer nothing that competitors don't offer - and more. We used to get MORE sports with Directv than anywhere else, it's not really true anymore.
OK, point taken on the change in package at rate increase time.
Believe or not, there is a contract between directv and root.
Go Lakers! Get that first win baby!
What sports teams do you have down there?
I know the Lakers are a storied franchise, but you have to like pro BB, which a number of us do not.
Yes there is...but so what is your point? When both parties are the same on both sides of the transaction the whole document is self serving. So what is your point?
Root Sports Network is owned by DirecTV sports network, which is a subsidiary of DirecTV.
That doesn't mean that the money all goes to the same coffer or that the 2 entities have to get along the whole time. There are many instances where a parent company has subsidaries that have to make business decisions that aren't always logical to the other side of the business but they have to be treated as 2 different companies.
Believe me, there is nothing remotely close to what DirecTV offers in my area. Nothing. It's not even a debate. The only debate is if I pop for cable as well just to get the Lakers channel. I will wait a little while longer before I decide that. A I can catch the game other ways for a while without going completely nuts.
USC and UCLA too.... I like most sports. Right now I get half the pro basketball, none of the college right now.... That's half the teams. Luckily I have other ways right now, but its a bit ridiculous for sports fans in Los Angeles right now.
And I haven't missed a Lakers game, listening or watching or going to a game since sometime in the 80s.
With the 3 million potential COX, DTV, and Dish viewers watching the Clippers and not the Lakers, and now Clippers are 2-0 and Lakers are 0-3, this whole thing could backfire for the Lakers and TW. If it keeps up, the advertisers may start to pour their money onto Prime Ticket. It will be interesting to see ratings from last Wednesday Clippers-Memphis game vs Lakers-Blazer game. The next 12 Laker games are exclusively on TW, so this will be the real test.
People keep forgetting, Comcast doesn't have the Lakers either.
$3.95 for this lousy product. :lol:
What do you mean? UCLA and USC have been on plenty this year. A few games have been on Pac 12 network, not all of them. Not even most of them.
I'm going to say this in a nice way....you have no idea what you are talking about.
Root sports costs have not gone way down, despite the loss of the Pac 12 games. Most of their costs are tied up in pro sports not with college.
You also clearly don't know how the Root Sports structure works with Directv. Let's just say in my past I have worked for firms such as Time Warner who owned HBO, I can assure you they might as well have been in two different universes because it was anything but money going in one pocket and then to the other. Same for Fox and NewsCorp. It just doesn't work that way in this industry. I have friends at DTV and at Root, and they treat each other like adversaries. No financial benefits on the deals DTV gets from Root.
Again, because you don't really know how this works. I'm being kind.
First off, Dish picture isn't as good. You pay for quality just as you pay for content. I'd love to know what your programming package is and hardware you have to be paying $15 less. Do you have one of those horrid receivers that serves two televisions off of one to save hardware fees?
You analogy on DTV and sports is flawed. If you live in NYC, you get YES, SNY, MSG, MSG +...if you had DISH in NYC you get......crickets chirping. Other examples like this with all providers. You can't just make blanket statements like you make.
Finally, on this Lakers deal I told you guys it will be done by next week. One thing none of you are factoring is the national nature of DTV vs a local \ regional cable \ telco provider. A DISH or DTV has a much more detailed deal to do than the local cable provider. Cox simply has to cut a deal for the Lakers in market rights and decide if $3.95 is worth it (it's not). Secondly, Cox, Fios, Uverse, etc all have more ability to take a loss in video because they gouge you guys every day for data and phone and yet you happily pay it each month. Margins sometimes 70%, they're just fat, dumb and happy to get people to pay for that without even missing a beat.
For a national video only player, however, they have to cut a deal that not only addresses the in market situation but the outer market (note, I didn't say OUT OF MARKET, I said OUTER MARKET). DTV has to address things like Santa Barbara, Hawaii, Las Vegas, etc that are "Lakers Outer Market" territory but not Out of market territory. FIOS, Uverse, Cox, Comcast, etc, don't have to do that. That makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE in negotiating rates, packaging, total cost, etc.
So when you say such and such "figured it out"....no they didn't. Those other entities don't even have to deal with those issues. It is a totally different deal.
The Lakers and DTV will have a deal next week. A horridly over priced channel for a bad basketball team. Enjoy the price hike everyone.
Incidentally, if TWC gets the Dodgers, that's an incremental cost on top of it and you will all absorb that one, even the 1/2 plus of Los Angelinos that don't care one iota about the Doyers.
I live in socal and watch sports on tv about 12 hours a day. I almost never watch basketball or baseball. I have the Choice Xtra Classic package and don't want any where near $4 or more a month added to my bill. Put that over priced hype in the sports pack. What about Fox Sports West and Prime Ticket? Now that they are losing their prime broadcasting shouldn't that cost go down? Switching to another provider does no good. They have already agreed to this huge increase.