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  1. Jun 21, 2007 #21 of 572
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    Both of the giant landline telco's have launched video services--Verizon with FIOS, and ATT with U-Verse.
     
  2. Jun 21, 2007 #22 of 572
    DCSholtis

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    You'll still have regionals on ABC, ESPN. They will have first choice over games and the BTN will have third, fourth, fifth choices etc each week.
     
  3. Jun 21, 2007 #23 of 572
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    If getting the Big Ten Network is REALLY important to you, I would suggest another provider besides Dish. If you're under contract - either keep it going or suspend during your sport season.
     
  4. Jun 21, 2007 #24 of 572
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    Do you know something that apparently no else knows?

    Do you think or know that there is no hope of Dish picking up the BTN?

    What kind of antenna are you talking about? Won't the BTN will only be on cable and satellite? If so what good is an antenna going to do.
     
  5. Jun 21, 2007 #25 of 572
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    I have contacted Dish twice. Once about two months ago when I politely asked if they were going to carry the BTN and about a week ago when I was much more blunt. I stated that if they did not carry the BTN then I would be forced to go to Direct.

    If you know anything else I can do just let me know and it will be done. I don't want to switch but if I must then so be it.

    Missing even a single IU bball game is not an option.
     
  6. Jun 21, 2007 #26 of 572
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    Corrected above.
     
  7. Jun 21, 2007 #27 of 572
    iublue

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    Dish has plenty of sports for me under the OLD system but the game has changed with the BTN. I know that it is just another regional sports network but if I am correct you can (I don't) get other regional sports networks on Dish.

    I would like to know how much it will cost Dish to carry the BTN?

    Does Dish have to guarantee so many subscribers? If the answer is no then what would be the reason that they don't sign on to the BTN network and give the consumer the choice?

    I would like to know what the sticking point is?
     
  8. Jun 22, 2007 #28 of 572
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    Am I the only one that thinks these sports networks are:

    1. Being Greedy?
    2. Shooting themselves in the foot in the long term?
    3. Example, Yes network. Now many Yankees games not on OTA. How many future fans will not even start to become fans? Same for any regional network IMHO.

    It is just an opinion that having sports for free on local channels has built a large fan base. Now they are doing their best to erode that base with greed and low class behavior by players.
     
  9. Jun 22, 2007 #29 of 572
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    BTN is resisting any moves to put it into a sports tier. D* will have it on their Total Choice Plus basic tier and above.
     
  10. Jun 22, 2007 #30 of 572
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    I have emailed Dish 4 times about it and have spread their coveted ceo@dishnetwork.com email address to all of my Boiler friends on the internet that have Dish Network. They are helping out also. If you guys frequent any Big Ten message boards, I would suggest that you do the same.

    Wow...I didn't think anything about the ABC Regional games. You're right, we won't be able to see them if we are out of our region. I thought it was all solved but I forgot about that issue. And its a BIG BIG issue because it could knock out several good games this season from actually being seen in my area. No Big Ten on Game Plan = no access to all the ABC Regional games.

    So now not only do I have to worry about Dish picking up the Big Ten Network, I also have to worry about them picking up the HD and all of the other regional Big Ten games (on Big Ten Network) AND wondering how the REGIONAL ABC games are going to be handled. There is no one at Dish to listen to our issues on this. Please update us on the ABC Regional issue if you find out anything.

    This sucks.
     
  11. Jun 22, 2007 #31 of 572
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    Yeah, we are both headed in the right direction. I watch every Purdue basketball and football game thats on TV and I will pay for the privilege to do so...just give me that chance. I have emailed them several times now...and I will keep emailing them.
     
  12. Jun 22, 2007 #32 of 572
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    BTN Press Conference held today here are the links if your interested in reading:

    http://bigten.cstv.com/genrel/062107aab.html

    http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/10233159 (More of the same but blasting Comcast here)

    http://bigten.cstv.com/genrel/062107aaa.html (Archived Audio Feed)
     
  13. Jun 22, 2007 #33 of 572
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    I totally agree but this is the time that we live in. Everyone and every institution is looking at maximizing profits. I noticed yesterday at the gas station that I frequent they had put a small ad zip tied to the gas pump hose.

    The Big Ten knows it has a valued product and is looking at cashing in. I don't think anyone is looking at the possible long term effects and I don't know if there will be any. People are getting used to an ala cart life. Some airlines are now charging for each soda you get.

    There are HUNDREDS of thousands Michigan football fans and you can add equal amounts of OSU and Penn State fans. The BT leads the country each year in basketball attendance. The state of Indiana lives and breaths basketball - mostly IU and PU. Dish needs to look at the numbers and realize that many if not most of these fans are truely fanatical in every sense of the word. They diligently follow their teams and IMO the Dish customers among them will go to Direct to watch their teams. Even on this board you have Iowa, PU and IU fans stating as much.

    IMO Dish will be making a TERRIBLE financial decision if thery do not carry the BTN.
     
  14. Jun 22, 2007 #34 of 572
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    Going on past history - Dish has historically been rather reluctant about adding these upstart regional sports networks... Professional, nevermind collegiate....

    Example - I don't believe YES is carried on Dish to this day.
     
  15. Jun 22, 2007 #35 of 572
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    East...

    And many people predicted the demise of Dish because they didn't (and still don't) carry YES. They were sure that there was no way that Dish could survive w/out carrying the Yankees RSN in the nations largest DMA, in fact I think YES was counting on the idea that Dish would be afraid not to carry it and would just agree to pay whatever YES asked. Well years later Dish still thrives as very profitable business w/out YES. Unfortunately this doesn't look good for BTN being carried by Dish if Charlie feels they're asking too much. He knows that life will go on and money will still come in hand over fist with or w/out BTN. That's too bad because I also would like to see this channel added as my fiance is a big IU basketball fan and wouldn't like the idea of missing games because BTN wanted more than Charlie was willing to pay.
     
  16. Jun 22, 2007 #36 of 572
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    Not only has Dish survivied not carrying the YES channel I beleiev their subscriber addition numbers are as good as or better than before YES came into being.

    It looks like DirecTV has decided to become the Sports source and Dish the lower cost alternative and it seems to be working for both so far.

    Just imagine if Dish had bought D*....

    Go back to cable? Ack!

    Or maybe we wouldn't even be seeing this sort of issue once YES happened the others would have realized not to be so greedy? Who knows.
     
  17. Jun 22, 2007 #37 of 572
    Codeman00

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    Looks like multiple Big Ten games will not be carried on ABC at the same time....

    This is from the agreement on the Big Ten Network website...
    All regional afternoon football games aired on ABC will be aired by ESPN/ESPN2 in outer-markets, making these games nationally available;
     
  18. Jun 22, 2007 #38 of 572
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    So if I understand this correctly, if one purchases the GamePlan (college football) package, the Big 10 games will not be broadcast to those GamePlan subscribers living in Big 10 country?
     
  19. Jun 23, 2007 #39 of 572
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    I sent a similar email earlier this evening. If Dish again refuses to provide programming important to some of us, I suggest we Big 10 brethren band together and ensure that DirecTV gives us a very favorable deal to switch. Not stepping up and providing the Extra Innings package was one thing, and still refusing to provide the Indy local channels in high definition (DirecTV has them) yet another...but denying at least the option to purchase the BTN will drive me away after over a decade as a customer and after lining Charlie's pocket with a frighteningly large amount of money during that timeframe.
     
  20. Jun 23, 2007 #40 of 572
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    TBoneit,

    As I have posted before, I have a choice of four HD providers in central NJ and
    Dish's basic HD package with locals is the most expensive. Also, the other
    three providers all provide YES HD. It is not visible to me where Dish is saving
    the subs money by not providing YES. I see many posts where subs apparently
    go on about Dish being the low cost provider. My opinion is that these subs
    like making Charlie rich.

    I have gone back to cable (Fios and digital cable). It is cheaper, better picture
    quality and it has the programming that I want which Dish does not provide.
     
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