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  1. Sep 1, 2007 #421 of 572
    heisman

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    I got my new D* service installed today. Brutal, and I mean brutal install. I will explain the details later, but a supervisor is on his way over right now. Horrid, and I mean horrid HD DVR. It's incredibly feature lacking and extremely tough to navigate. Picture format modes are just awful as well. I would kill for an advanced machine like the VIP622 right now. Well, at least I got BTN and NFLST going for me! (but M-F is going to be tough!)
     
  2. Sep 1, 2007 #422 of 572
    Camman41

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    Are the BTN games in HD anywhere on *D? The highlights on ESPNHD are in HD on all the BTN games that started at noon. How are they receiving them in Bristol, Conn.? Are we consumers going to get them in HD before D10 lights up?
     
  3. Sep 1, 2007 #423 of 572
    James Long

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    :lol: (couldn't resist - I'll try harder next time)

    There was the thought that BTN in HD would be available this weekend ... check the D* forums.
     
  4. Sep 1, 2007 #424 of 572
    Michael P

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    The headlines on these press releases are misleading. That is what I call BS.
    See Post #308:
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1063965&postcount=308
    Basically E* (and now Comcast as well) have released BS Press releases with a headline that suggests that they have "Big 10" and then list the few Big 10 games that are being carried on networks other than BTN.
     
  5. Sep 1, 2007 #425 of 572
    James Long

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    BTN started it by releasing statements that make it sound like there will be NO Big 10 games on TV without BTN. The reality is BTN does not have first choice ... the better games (more popular matches - games most people want to see) WILL NOT be on BTN.

    If someone is going to waive the "BS" flag they should look toward BTN. :)
     
  6. Sep 1, 2007 #426 of 572
    Michael P

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    There is plenty of BS to go around on both sides.

    BTN should stop trying to get on a basic tier with the $1.10 price tag.
    They can't have it both ways. Either lower the price or accept being put on a "sports tier" (which is where they belong). Those of you that disagree want Grandma to subsidize your college football viewing habit.

    Watch out or someone will get the Government involved, then everything will get screwed up. We'll end up with a pure a-la carte system where the equivilent of top-200 will cost $75.00 :p
     
  7. Sep 1, 2007 #427 of 572
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    I'm a grown man. The reason I posted my experience was to help others and take the abuse I deserve. ;)

    edit: it was all worth it to watch Michigan, well.....SUCK!!!!!
     
  8. Sep 1, 2007 #428 of 572
    James Long

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    Final Michigan score made the game look better 34-32 ...
    The fans at Notre Dame stadium love the outcome! :)
     
  9. Sep 1, 2007 #429 of 572
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    I guess I'll watch a "3rd tier" game anytime. Way to go App. State!
     
  10. Sep 1, 2007 #430 of 572
    spdmonkey

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    Unfortunately it just helps the BTN's argument that these are not second or third tier games. I can just see Gordon Gee going on and on about how App St was the greatest game ever played in Michigan Stadium.....makes me want to barf. I will wait until sell it for $.25 a sub and Charlie bites.

    Dave
     
  11. Sep 1, 2007 #431 of 572
    angiecopus

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    and so did the fans at Ohio State, There were several people with BTN shirts on a before the Ohio state game today and alot of fans including myself signed petitions to get Btn on our cable and satillite.
     
  12. Sep 1, 2007 #432 of 572
    nmetro

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    I do not know if Gordan Gee is going to go that far. It is long road to the Ohio State - Michigan game. At least the Bucks took care of YSU 38 -6.

    As for App. State defeating Michigan, well the shock is going to be there fo a while. The BTN issue sure limited the audience to seeing history. In the past, this game would have ended up on ESPN Classic, but BTN has exclusive rights. I am surprised that ESPN was allowed to show highlights while the game was going on.

    Let's just hope the BTN situation gets settled soon or things will start to get dicey. As mentioned earlier, they are getting a large black eye over this entire mess. Folks in Ann Arbor were not too thrilled with the Comcast - BTN war of words. Now they have more to scream about.

    BTW, the Wisconsin - Washington State game is being aired in ESPNA (channel 145) as part of the BTN/ABC/ESPN agreement. Let's hope this agreement continues.

    I think it is time for the CEOs of our media company grow up and do what is right. Putting the fans in the middle show lack of backbone, maturity and professionalism on their part.
     
  13. Sep 1, 2007 #433 of 572
    msmith198025

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    I hate that those with dish couldnt see it, it really was a GREAT game!
     
  14. Sep 1, 2007 #434 of 572
    Codeman00

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    I was sitting on my couch today for the first time in years having only one Big Ten game to watch (MSU vs UAB). It was a blowout by the end of the first quarter and I was so curious to what was happening with the other 4 games. I kept seeing that ASU was not only staying with Michigan, they were beating Michigan. About halfway through the second quarter, I finally took off to Buffalo Wild Wings to watch football by myself.

    BWW was very PROUD lets say of the Big Ten Network. There was a Big Ten game on every TV in the place...and I live in Tennessee. They know that its a big deal to have the BTN.

    Well, I'm glad that I didn't miss the game...now I just wish Charlie would reimburse me for the food and $6 beer at BWW when I should have been watching the BTN at home on Dish.

    Thanks again Charlie! Oh yeah...and congrats ASU !
     
  15. Sep 1, 2007 #435 of 572
    angiecopus

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    Thank goodness for my fathers Tickets to ALL the home games, when my brother cannot go to a game or has tickets for a game I get to go. All that i am worried about is the Basketball season, I have been hooked on The Buckeye basketball team, and we don't have tickets for that.
     
  16. Sep 1, 2007 #436 of 572
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    For all those interested in switching from E* to D* for BTN, I will give you the lowdown. First of all, the installation was a nightmare. I asked the young urban youth sent to my home to put the dish in a certain spot. He said, it couldn't be done. I showed him how to do it, he refused. Alrighty then! I let him go about his business, and then as soon as he left, I called D* and explained the situation. Within an hour a supervisor (from the reseller) was at my door, and basically said that I was on the money and they would send someone out within the hour to fix it. He also mentioned his worker didn't ground the dish, so they would do that as well. I got a call in about 2 hours and they said they couldn't come out until tomorrow morning. I agreed, but called D* again to explain how I was not happy about the situation. They did give me a $50 bill credit for my troubles, which I think is pretty fair, as long as they fix the problem tomorrow.

    As far as the equipment goes, I will only advise those currently using a VIP622, that they had really better LOVE their favorite Big Ten team like I do to switch to an HR-20. I can best describe my feelings towards the Buckeyes like this: I'm an OSU alum, I give money to the alumni fund, I attend at least 3 games a year in person, etc., etc. I don't miss Buckeye games! The HR-20 is light years behind the VIP622. The HR-20 does not allow you to change the picture format on an HD channel. The HR-20 does not have PIP. The HR-20 does not have DLB. The HR-20 does not have a live tv button. The remote is archaic (at best). In other words, it's tough to find the dvr buttons and figure out what they do, unlike the VIP622 remote's interface which flows so well and is so easy to figure out, even a caveman could do it. :) The one feature the HR-20 has over the VIP is a native setting, which I really like.

    As far as picture quality goes, D*'s SD looks much better than E*'s SD. This actually came as quite a shocker to me, but nonetheless, it was a very pleasant surprise. I found the HD quality on both to be very similar, but I would give a slight edge to E*, as I have noticed a few more artifacts on D*'s HD. The difference in HD was not nearly as great in the improvement of my SD channels after the switch.

    In summation, if you really love the 622 as I do, it will definitely take some time to get used to D*'s inferior equipment offering. Actually, inferior might be way too kind a word. I'm very happy with the improved SD picture on D*, and I certainly loved watching the Buckeye victory, but not nearly as much as I enjoyed watching Michigan lose to a D2 school. :lol: :lol: :lol: If D*'s future HD offering is as impressive as advertised then I will probably never look back. But if they underdeliver on their HD promises, then I will be pining away for my 622 for a long long time.
     
  17. Sep 1, 2007 #437 of 572
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    For those of us who could care less about getting BTN. Who would want to watch the games of teams that can't even beat 1-AA teams. Michigan-WHAT A JOKE!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  18. Sep 1, 2007 #438 of 572
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    I can't figure out which I enjoyed more, scUM losing to a D2 team, or Notre Ame getting absolutely slobber-knockered at home by 30 points! It was a great day in college football!
     
  19. Sep 1, 2007 #439 of 572
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    the fans at the Edward Jones dome gave that score a big time cheer, and a good laugh as well, you could actually hear the fans laughing on ESPN.
     
  20. Sep 1, 2007 #440 of 572
    James Long

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    Every once in a while people get surprised. Why did those with first pick not bother with the game? It was an unexpected outcome.

    Unfortunately ND fans didn't have much more to cheer about. I wonder how many more "second thought" questions Charlie will have to answer this week plus questions about who the QB will be for next week's game (or if he'll try to use all three again).
     
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