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  1. Jun 29, 2007 #81 of 572
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    A better way to say it is E* has a different audience than the NFL Sunday ticket,
    MLB EI, YES, CSN Phila, Setanta, HD RSN crowd. When there are over 250
    channels to choose from, there are millions of subs who have no interest in the
    aforementioned programming.

    Now that Setanta is uplinked maybe E* is trying to cultivate that niche market.

    For a college only sports network, I believe the $1.10 price is high and unprecedented. The FSN networks also have professional sports.
     
  3. Jun 29, 2007 #83 of 572
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    Yeah but i can't get them in my area, so FSN means nothing to me:nono:
     
  4. Jun 30, 2007 #84 of 572
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    Sounds like things are getting nasty on this. Its begining to be crunch time. To get advertisers to line up, they need to show viewers. To date there are minimal viewers for this channel, and thus advertising sales are probably in the tank. The Mtn tried to do this and failed, and if the Big 10 can't pull it off, then the entire concept will fail. Perhaps many of the TV operators see this as a way to stop the potential that everyone will want their own dedicated channel.
     
  5. Jul 2, 2007 #85 of 572
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    Interesting update as to what's going on:

    Chicago Tribune

    "Silverman says the BTN's asking price is reasonable when you consider that Comcast SportsNet charges $3.75 per customer within 150 miles of Chicago and $2 outside."
     
  6. Jul 2, 2007 #86 of 572
    James Long

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    The sports on CSN Chi are better.
     
  7. Jul 2, 2007 #87 of 572
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    Well that's a matter of opinion! :uglyhamme
     
  8. Jul 3, 2007 #88 of 572
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    The following is from today's Columbus Dispatch:

    CHICAGO -- The Big Ten Network will launch at 8 p.m. EDT on Aug. 30, officials at the new network announced today.

    Included among the initial programming will be Big Ten Tonight, a studio-based, news, information and highlight show.

    The network also said it has achieved distribution commitments for more than 75 cable systems that serve communities in the eight states where Big Ten schools are located. Subscribers to these cable systems will receive the Big Ten Network on an expanded basic level of service.

    Central Ohio’s three major cable providers — Time Warner, WOW and Insight — have not agreed to pick up the network on their expanded basic tiers.

    The network's first game coverage will be Sept. 1 with regional coverage of football games between Youngstown State and Ohio State; Appalachian State at Michigan; Florida International and Penn State; and Northeastern and Northwestern.

    That night in prime time there will be coverage of Bowling Green at Minnesota and Indiana State at Indiana.

    Among the local cable systems planning to carry the Big Ten Network as part of their expanded basic level of service:

    * Altatec Alta Municipal Utility
    * Cedar Falls Utilities, Celect Communications
    * Consolidated Communications Network Services
    * City of Wadsworth Cable TV
    * Dixon Telephone Company
    * Grundy Center Municipal
    * Harlan Municipal Utilities
    * Hiawatha Broadband
    * Horizon Telecom
    * Independence Communications
    * Iowa Network Services
    * Mid-Century Communications
    * Moultrie Telecommunications
    * Muscatine Power & Water
    * Oneida Cablevision
    * Spencer Municipal Utilities
    * The Community Agency and USA Communications

    The Big Ten Network has a national distribution agreement with DirectTV , as well as a regional agreement with Buckeye Cable.

    More information can be found at the network's Web site, www.bigtennetwork.com
     
  9. Jul 3, 2007 #89 of 572
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    Heisman's household disagrees. In fact, we don't even pay the extra $5 for that worthless station.
     
  10. Jul 3, 2007 #90 of 572
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    Heisman should look at the ratings for the channel, and look beyond himself.
    Half of the time BTN will get 4th choice games, 75% of the time BTN will get 3rd or 4th choice games. BTN will not have first choice games (unless it is a sport nobody else is touching).

    I hope E* carries the channel ... but I make no claim that BTN will be any better or more popular than CSTV ... certainly not on par with ESPN or a pro-sports RSN. Such claims would be humorous if I didn't believe those making them were serious.
     
  11. Jul 3, 2007 #91 of 572
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    I think this whole thing is going to end ugly. If you've got smaller cable companies, those owned by local teleco's, that are adding BTN to their expanded basic lineup at the rates that the BTN is asking for, there goes the leverage of Comcast, Time Warner, Mediacom, etc. demanding BTN be added to their respective digital sports tiers and if I were those smaller cable companies, i'd darn well be making sure that potential customers know they carry Big Ten Network and the big boys don't.
     
  12. Jul 3, 2007 #92 of 572
    James Long

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    If the small guys were competing against the big guys it might make a difference. As it stands it is just another charge to be passed on to the customer -- and yet another channel provider who believes that they know how to run a cable system better than the companies who actually run cable systems.
     
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    I would not say ugly. But you are correct, Comcast, Time Warner, Dish etc have no
    leverage to get BTN to change the terms. Just like Dish has no leverage to get
    YES to change their terms. The BTN terms will not change.

    If the other providers do not pick up BTN, then the subs who really want BTN will
    switch to Directv or drop Dish and go with local cable.

    I would not say CSN Chi has better programming. CSN Chi may have a bigger
    following, but there are certainly going to be subs who want BTN no matter what.
    BTN is in the same position that Comcast is when Comcast offers CSN Chi, CSN
    Philly, etc. Its called the catbird seat.
     
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    Except Comcast is a lion ... BTN? I thought I saw a puddy tat. :)
     
  15. Jul 3, 2007 #95 of 572
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    You stated that the "sports" were better on CSN. There is no better sport than Big Ten football. The attendance figures speak for themselves--yeah, even for the crappy games. Heck, the Buckeyes have more fans for their spring game than the Cubs, Sox, Bulls, or Blackhawks have ever witnessed in their pathetic existence. So, I'm probably speaking for more than just myself.
     
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    James Long

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    If people are looking for crappy games, they need look no further than BTN?
    Is that what you are saying? :)
     
  17. Jul 3, 2007 #97 of 572
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    It is possible that enough hold-outs will make a difference. Anyone remember Victory Sports One? What did they last, two months, maybe?
     
  18. Jul 3, 2007 #98 of 572
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    That's not what I'm saying, but to address the point--yes, you are absolutely correct. I wouldn't expect non-fans to enjoy much on the network, much like I don't enjoy anything on CSN. The reason all the Big Ten fanatics are stoked about the network is because we don't have to play ESPN roulette anymore. ESPN has shown Big Ten games on ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPNCLASSIC, ESPNEWS, ESPN DEPORTES, ESPN+, ESPN GAMEPLAN, and ESPN FULL COURT. Enough is enough. Now, we can have all of the crappy games in one place. Thank God! ;)
     
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    Did you not notice that BTN does NOT get first choice? You'll still be watching ABC for their first choice pick of games, and ESPN for other games most of the time. BTN gets fourth pick games six out of twelve weeks! So keep that roulette wheel spinning! :)
     
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    When the ABC and ESPN contracts expire, things will be different. I know that is not for this season. BTN is in this for the long haul.

    There is a posting on DSL that Verizon has signed on with BTN. I do not know
    if it is true. There is no press release or independent confirmation.
     
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