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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by sstv, Oct 27, 2018.

  1. scottchez

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    At least we know they are expanding to more markets and not just canceling the whole thing. So that is the good news.

    Its been over a air since this started so some are starting to wonder if they canceled the project.
    Dish had theirs out several years ago, they did it in 5 months of testing (same hard ware design and chip).
     
  2. HoTat2

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    True;

    But then again as I posted on another thread, it's not just the LCC, as I really can't recall any new hardware released by DIRECTV ever since AT&T took all product testing in-house to groups of employees under obviously strict NDAs.

    This area is really at a snail's pace nowadays.

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  3. slice1900

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    Wait...have they actually expanded the database in any of the 12 small DMAs where Directv doesn't carry locals? I could have sworn I checked a while back and none had been expanded yet.

    For those who are curious but don't follow the thread on the edgecutters site where this is tracked, they are about halfway done with expanding the markets, but seem to go in fits and starts. They'll do a dozen or more markets a week for a few weeks in a row, then go a month or more without doing any. It has been a few weeks since the last expansion, so they are getting to be due for another spurt.
     
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    Well, here's hoping they spurt it up.
     
  5. compnurd

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    Well technically they did release the C71k
     
  6. Athlon646464

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    @slice1900 - When did they start the process? Was it a year ago?

    If that's the case and there's another year to go, and they wait to make the LCC available when everyone can have it, that would really suck.
     
  7. P Smith

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    some answers are posted here OTA Channel Guide Issues
     
  8. slice1900

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    They started it last summer I think. I don't think we can assume they'll stay on the same pace - they could finish it in a few weeks if they made it a priority, but there isn't any hurry until they are ready to release the LCC (I think they will want to have the database expansion 100% complete before a nationwide release)

    What all they feel they need to have ready/done before they release the LCC is anyone's guess, but if there are now more markets where it is available they are one step closer.
     
  9. Athlon646464

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    Thanks for getting back to me. It appears that it's going to be a bit of a wait then. I just don't see them picking up the pace because I don't see what would be in it for them.
     
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  10. slice1900

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    What would be in it for them is that they can offer discounts to customers who drop locals and use the LCC. The more customers who do that, the better Directv's negotiating leverage will be with local station owner groups since fewer customers would be impacted by a blackout threat.
     
  11. HoTat2

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    Though I would imagine the leverage the stations feel they can bank on is the fact that DIRECTV's OTA solutions have never really caught-on in the past.

    AM21s, H/HR20 and HD TiVo integrated ones, ....

    So will just a $10 discount be all that greater of an incentive for subscribers to really flock to the LCC OTA adapter to give DIRECTV substantial bargaining power in future local channel carriage negotiations?

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  12. Athlon646464

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    I don't think that's enough to get AT&T moving. I have to believe that even at it's peak, the AM21 was installed by a very small percentage of subs. For now, the LCC is just there to placate annoyed subs when there is already a dispute. Also, I'm not sure I would lower my bill by $10 even if I had an LCC (like many others would not), so the percentage of subs AT&T could use while negotiating would be even smaller. Every time I see this argument, this is my thought process, IMHO.

    I don't think so. IMHO, cord cutters and cord nevers will drive locals to re-think their model, not the LCC.

    However, I wouldn't be surprised if AT&T were to advertise a dish with an LCC as a hybrid solution just to capture some of the less technical cord cutter crowd. :eek: (Just being a little sarcastic with that, btw.)
     
  13. ctide21

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    Via chat this afternoon I hopefully ordered a LCC. I have an order number on the website for a "receiver deca" and it also says seasonal sports condition. I am in Socal so we will see if I actually get the LCC. The rep on the chat said it would ship next day and it would be at no cost. Time will tell.
     
  14. KyL416

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    You can add yourself to the list of people who thought they bypassed the test markets only to get something else instead. That's the adapter that splits the coax network into a seperate ethernet connection for receivers without internal DECA support.
     
  15. 242424

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    They don't carry my locals so I guess I could/maybe get one but they haven't said if it's going to work with the HR-24 yet sooo
     
  16. litzdog911

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    Keep us posted. A "receiver deca" is not an LCC, though.
     
  17. ctide21

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    I have my doubts as well. Let's go with the glass is half full approach and keep the fingers crossed.
     
  18. slice1900

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    True Directv's OTA solutions didn't catch on in the past, but they didn't promote them AND they didn't save the customer any money. I'm paying Mediacom just under $15/month for locals, and while Directv is a lot bigger and can get better rates, they are probably over $10 in most locales.

    If it costs Directv that much, giving customers $10 off (or better yet breaking out the cost of locals and just removing them from your bill, so your savings increase over time and your yearly price increases are less since locals are a big part of those increases) is a no brainer because that would help drive adoption of the LCC and the more people adopted it the better leverage they'd have with the Sinclairs and Nexstars of the world.

    The only other alternative is continuing to add several dollars a year to people's bills for locals ALONE, and driving more and more people to cut the cord when they reach their "my bill is too damn high" breaking point.

    An (updated ATSC 3.0 capable) LCC will also be necessary if/when we see locals in 4K, since Directv will never deliver those via satellite.
     
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    So what's the current status of the LCC? I'm in the LA market.
     
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    Hmm... according to DTV, they're only giving them out in markets with channel disputes. Lovely.
     

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