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  1. R0am3r

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    I disagree. I ran the setup multiple times with no fix. Some time this morning, it started working. I am guessing the Directv gurus finally fixed the problem. I envision the fix as sending the correct metadata to my HR44 to point to the correct UHF channel number.

    Two more channels in the Syracuse market will change frequencies this week. I can't wait to see how this will work out.
     
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  2. Athlon646464

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    Great news. Happy you sorted it out!
     
  3. NR4P

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    Before you rescan, you need to reset all OTA channels. Effectively removing all OTA channels. Then rescan, that will fix the old/new channel assignments.
     
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  4. scottchez

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    In some cases I have found you also have to Reset all OTA, then Reboot the box, then rescan. Reboot really helps
     
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  5. R0am3r

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    Thanks for the feedback. A reboot was also a good idea since my HR44 received the 0x1214 update on Friday.
     
  6. cpalmer2k

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    I finally had a chance to hook up my LCC today and so far it isn't working very well at all. I put in my primary and secondary zip codes, let it do its thing, and when I pull up the guide only two stations were "found"- our local ABC affiliate and a PBS station. Neither are strong signals at all for me. As a matter of fact it isn't picking up ANY locals my TV or TiVo/HDHomeRun devices pick up at all! When I tried to go into the OTA setup menu again the "Edit Antenna Channels" option is grayed out. Is that normal with the LCC? I know on the old AM21N you could choose the stations you wanted to include.

    I know the locals I'm missing are coming in strong. I can view the signal strengths of the same antenna using the Signal app and my HDHomeRun, so I know signal isn't the issue.
     
  7. makaiguy

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    Go into the off air antenna set up and hit Reset Settings to clear everything out. When it finishes, go back in and go thru the Start Setup routine again. When THAT finishes hit 'Watch TV' (or some similar wording). Finally, go back in yet again and Edit Antenna Channels' should now be active.
     
  8. makaiguy

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    I don't have access to a window on the side of my house facing the broadcast towers so I had to settle on an internal wall location for the Winegard antenna, where signals had to pass through an outer brick wall and two internal wood frame walls with drywall. Tried all sorts of positions and was surprised to find my best reception was with the antenna laid down flat on a high shelf. Two of my main locals (and their subs) came in very well, and since one of them was my only missing dispute station, I just went with it.

    Today I managed to hook up a powered Radio Shack indoor/outdoor antenna in my attic that I used to use with my former HR20 a bunch of years ago, and it brings in all the locals with "green" signal strengths 95-100, and one low powered station I'd never even seen before.
     
  9. cypherx

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    I just received the LCC today. I don’t think I can mount it in the attic because it has that usb power amplifier and the bozo’s that designed it are using a proprietary cable without f connectors on each end of the amplifier. Had it been RG59 or 6 I could just cut and put some ends on (I have tools and ends for both), however this white coaxial cable is very thin, almost like WiFi antenna cable seen inside of access points.

    I don’t have an always on power outlet in the attic. I have a light socket controlled by a pull chain, and I could get a light socket Y adapter and light socket outlet converter, but I do not want to keep the attic light on 24/7. I would have liked to insert power on the coax for the amplifier down by the receiver, but it’s too close to the antenna. I’ll try it in my living room window and if it gets something then maybe I will purchase a larger antenna I can mount to some joists in the attic and do it right.
     
  10. cypherx

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    Ok I tested the LCC antenna first with my tv’s internal tuner. I can only get stations from the back of the house which makes sense since that is facing east towards the Philadelphia locals. I cannot get Allentown but I can get a pixelates channel 8 (nbc) from Lancaster. I did tape it to a gable vent in the attic and for now I have an extension cord running down the attic door into an outlet in the hallway. I have an attic fan that never worked since we moved in in 2010, so I think I’m going to head to Lowe’s and get a new work box and outlet, cut that electrical line and terminate it into a new duplex outlet for the amplifier. Without power the tv gets nothing.

    I’m trying the DirecTV scan and after somewhat of an eternity loading the zip code, it’s doing a progress bar downloading guide data. We’ll see if it works. If so I’ll head to Lowe’s next.
     
  11. makaiguy

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    I've not seen this mentioned, but the zip code lookup DOES take a long time. I've done this set up several times and I just go do something else til my location is confirmed. I'm guessing this is done by monitoring a continuously downloading loop of zip code data, and waiting until the zip you're looking for rolls by.
     
  12. TheRatPatrol

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    If you can’t put one outside, and already have a coax cable going to the attic above the garage, I would just purchase an OTA antenna and place it in there. It would save you from have to wire power up there. My parents have one in the space above their garage and it works fine.
     
  13. cypherx

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    I’m getting a few channels, cbs included in the yellow 40-50% strength. There’s some random stutter and pixelation so we will see how it does at night. I think signals propagate better at night If I recall.

    I did put an outlet in the attic, there’s a lot of electrical to tie into. Plus this helps if I need to run a work light up there, whereas before I always ran a long extension cord from the hallway. There’s no signal without the power connection, so if I replace the antenna I will likely put a preamp off of that outlet anyway.

    I’m thinking of the $40 RCA antenna with really good reviews on Amazon

    TV Antenna - RCA Outdoor Yagi Satellite HD Antenna w/ 150 Mile Range (70+ Miles from Broadcast Epicenter) Attic or Roof Mount TV Antenna, Long Range Digital OTA Antenna for Clear Reception, 4K 1080P https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0024R4B5C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_A42pDbZGPZKCH


    Plus whatever highest reviewed amp I can get. I have a lot of trees on the east side, plus being in an attic doesn’t help. If all of that doesn’t work, I’ll mount it outside on the facia since it’s in my backyard.
     
  14. SledgeHammer

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    I have the good ol' classic Channel Master 4228 in my attic. It's a passive antenna and I can pull LA stations from 45 miles away.
     
  15. sstv

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    Well, LCC number 3 is on its way. It seems that after a brief problem checkout, they send you another LCC. I kept telling them the LCC was fine, but they insisted on a new LCC. So whats the problem, my local CBS over the air is a blank screen, but its sub channels are OK. All the other channels are OK. Many long telephone calls did not solve the problem. Sitting here in total frustration, I reset the HR54 and my local over the air CBS came back. I think I got a sick 54. I will call DTV tomorrow for a Tech call. I think 3 LCC's is some kind of record. I feel bad that some can't get one and I got 3.
    SSTV
     
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  16. cypherx

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    Any idea why the channel logo for 3-1 KYW cbs is weird?

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    There’s a little too much picture breakup anyway I think I’m going to get that RCA antenna along with an amp like this one:

    Skywalker Signature Series SKY38323 25dB Amplifier VHF/UHF/FM w/variable gain (SKY38323) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008UDF55E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_uM4pDbXPSHEHF:

    Also funny enough on CBS3 news they said to rescan for the channels August 1st. How do I do that so DirecTV finds the new frequency? Maybe I should wait to buy an antenna until August 1st because maybe the new frequency is better. I know very few people can get channel 6 (ABC) in our area even though it’s in the same antenna farm as the other Philly stations, because it’s on VHF Lo. Hopefully CBS doesn’t go down there!
     
  17. jamieh1

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    All the CBS stations have that logo, except the HD it’s been wrong for a long time.
     
  18. Athlon646464

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    That may be a good antenna, but I really have an issue with those claims. Here's the description of that antenna on Amazon:

    TV Antenna - RCA Outdoor Yagi Satellite HD Antenna w/ 150 Mile Range (70+ Miles from Broadcast Epicenter) Attic or Roof Mount TV Antenna, Long Range Digital OTA Antenna for Clear Reception, 4K 1080P

    Even if you lived in a perfectly flat area with no buildings or trees, with the curvature of the Earth, unless you have a 50' tower the signal cannot reach 150 miles. What they are really saying is if you live exactly in the middle of two towers that are in completely opposite directions from you and they are each 75 miles from you, you have a 150 mile antenna.

    There is no such thing as a digital antenna.

    Except for a couple of experimental stations, no one is broadcasting a 4K 1080P signal. If you lived where they are doing that, you couldn't see it anyway because there are no tuners yet on the market for that.

    They really have to do something about these claims - all they do is confuse many consumers.
     
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  19. sanpablo

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    I lost my local antenna channels through my AM21-(HR54) after last
    Thursdays software upgrade (1214) I tried resetting antenna settings and rebooting receiver. Still nothing. My HR24-AM21 setups are still working.
    Anyone else have this happen?
    thanks
     
  20. cypherx

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    Thanks Athlon646464, yes there are a lot of buzzwords in the post, but it has over 5000 reviews, and its a reasonable size if it doesn't work inside the attic, I could mount it on the facia board in my back yard facing east.

    However I'm intregued by the Channel Master 4228HD as seen here: https://www.amazon.com/Channel-Master-CM-4228HD-High-Antenna/dp/B000FVVKQM

    There are other people online that have positive things to say about it. Now this is one that I would keep in the attic, but to overcome signal loss from being indoors (and cable runs) I would consider a preamp, possibly the winegard one.

    Last night CBS3 was around 60% signal quality, and the good old pause wait 2 seconds, play trick helped smooth out the playback (and eliminate audio stutters). I realize signals propigate better at night without the sun's influence on the ionosphere. Its why CB'ers "shoot skip" or HAMs make contact over long distances at night, or AM radio stations are required to reduce output power. I have a lot of trees in my back yard so during the hot summer day its most likely the best time to fine tune the antenna since the leaves are full and the sun is strong. Hence a good 20% swing (40% to 60%).

    Plus I think I got the bug. As an IT hobbyist I almost want to get another antenna just because its fun to tinker and heck maybe split it into my SDR and see what else I can pick up on it.
     

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