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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by sstv, Oct 27, 2018.

  1. reubenray

    reubenray Godfather

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    How many OTA channels can be recorded at the same time with the LCC?
     
  2. Athlon646464

    Athlon646464 Yada Yada Yada DBSTalk Gold Club

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    Well, there are 2 tuners, so...

    Two
     
  3. coconut13

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    Here's something anyone using an AM21/LCC on an HR44/54 can use to get more "guides" into their DVR. Since the AM21/LCC now scans channels into your DVR, it picks up ALL the channels your antenna picks up. IF, you pick up channels not in the database for your area, you will have no guide (REG SCHEDULE) listed in your guide. IF you run a secondary zip code with a channel identical to a channel with no guide, you will get the guide from the secondary zip code. This is how it works for me. I'm in the Minneapolis/St Paul DMA. My antenna picks up ALL the regular stations, plus the low-power stations on 14.1-14.5, 25.1-25.6, and 33.1-33.7. I have no guide on any of the low-power stations. But, I run Utica NY (13501) as a primary zip and Washington DC (20001) as a secondary zip. It gives me 33.2 with the Escape guide and 33.3 with the Laff guide. Since Utica carries Escape and Laff on those exact channels and they are in the database, the guides show up on my DVR and match perfectly for me. Since my 33.2 is Escape and my 33.3 is Laff. Washington DC gives me the Get, Grit and Bounce guides on 14.2-14.4 respectively. None of these are on the right channels but I receive these channels and can reference the guide for them this way. After you run and establish your primary zip the DVR will let you run 2 more zips to "fill in guides" on any channel that has "REGULAR SCHEDULE". Remember you need a zip with the same channel number as the channel without a guide. But by doing this "TRICK" you can put some guides into your DVR and if you're lucky you can maybe even "match" channels and get a correct guide for your channel like I do on 33.2 and 33.3. Try it, it works. This is on an HR44 AM21 setup.
     
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  4. scottchez

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    Anyone try to order one lately now that the disputes are over.
    Will they ship one?
     
  5. MysteryMan

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    The disputes aren't over. Our local ABC, FOX and MNT stations are still dark.
     
  6. techguy88

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    Ah yes I remember this old trick now it was how to get around the limitation of the HR44/54 not being able to scan for channels not in the database lol. I'm in no hurry atm with trying to see if there is another zip that has Heroes & Icons on 30.2 and StartTV on 30.3 lol. (I've already got used to when Medium comes on StartTV rofl) My UHF channels are in Phase 6 of the repack which should be completed by 10/18/19 and I'm waiting to see if D* will add those two subchannels to the database when they update the RF# once all the UHF channels move in my DMA.
     
  7. coconut13

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    Since 30.2 and 30.3 are not in the current database for Huntington, you could still receive them by running Memphis TN (37501) as a secondary zip. WLMT 30.2 (METV) and WLMT 30.3 (START), would show up in your guide. START would match perfectly for you in the guide and you would have a METV guide on 30.2, which is H&I for you. You get both channels into your DVR, with 30.3 matching guides.
     
  8. techguy88

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    Thanks coconut! I just used this when I hooked my AM21N to my HR24 with my spare antenna :) I had forgotten for a moment that the HR24 can't scan for channels like the HR44 can rofl.
     
  9. coconut13

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    If you have an HR44/AM21 setup which SCANS. You have 30.2 and 30.3 with no guide (regular schedule). But, if you run Memphis as a secondary zip on the HR44, it will fill in 30.2 (METV) and 30.3 (Start) from Memphis in your guide. Helpful on 30.3, but still the wrong guide on 30.2.
     
  10. Steady Teddy

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    I mentioned this in another thread but I'll post it here too.

    All the channels I get after scanning look perfect-as good as the D* channels. But I'm seeing video stuttering on ALL channels. Could this be that signal is still not strong enough even though the PQ looks great, or could it be an issue with the LCC?
     
  11. Athlon646464

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    It's the LCC - just not ready for prime time (sry for the pun). Hit pause, then play to fix the stuttering.
     
  12. P Smith

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    so, you involuntary reveal - it's STB problem !!!
    all the trick functions are doing by FW of STB!
     
  13. Athlon646464

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    Didn't think of it in that way - good point.
     
  14. slice1900

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    Just because it is fixed by doing something on the receiver doesn't mean it isn't an issue with the LCC. If it has problems delivering data over the USB link 'live' because it is sometimes delaying some data or sending corrupted data that needs to be resent, then the pause/play trick that would effectively view 'a second less than live' would work around a problem with the LCC.

    If I had to guess I'd say it may be a Linux driver issue with the LCC. OEMs that develop stuff like TV tuners put far more effort into their Windows drivers since that's what most people run on their PCs. I'm assuming the device would be a market failure if it stuttered under Windows. so it seems unlikely to me that it does (if someone wants to try it on their Windows laptop, and can find the right driver, this could be confirmed)

    The Linux driver typically gets less attention, and in order to fix this issue the company that makes the LCC would have to be able to replicate the issue. Assuming Directv has the source they might have the means to fix it themselves, but still would still someone with the ability to understand the issue and know what needs to be done. They might not have anyone doing kernel/driver level programming, relying on OEMs to do that for them and only dealing with the higher layers like the GUI etc.
     
  15. cypherx

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    Has anyone ever tried connecting an LCC to a Windows 10 PC? Would the automatic search for drivers find something? Boy that would be interesting.
     
  16. trh

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    Yes. Results somewhere in this thread.
     
  17. sstv

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    Hi All
    I started this post and I have a followup. I got my LCC, plugged it in and my HR54 installed it. Everything worked fine except CBS channel 11. This was the dispute channel. Without going into a lot of detail, 11 was very flaky. I had a service call and the Tech said a replacement HR54 would not cure the problem. I checked out everything I could think of and it always came back to the HR54 so another service call and this time I insisted that the 54 be replaced, The new 54 was a duplicate of the old one,HR54-500, and the problem has gone away.
    The Lcc has a fussy USB connector. The tech had to wiggle the usb connection to get it to install. He tried another LCC with the same results so wiggle the USB if your having install problems. Its cheap and who knows.
    I use my LCC mainly to avoid rain fade on recorded programs and that has worked out very nicely. The LCC has two tuners and if you need three, pick one and use the sat. channel.
    SSTV
     
  18. slice1900

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    If replacing the HR54 "fixed" it maybe it is the HR54 that has the fussy USB connector and not the LCC?
     
  19. sstv

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    BOTH hr54'S had the problem.
    SSTV
     
  20. Oct 2, 2019 #920 of 959
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    Have been without local Fox all year. Now seeing warning that NBC/CBS affiliates may be going away. Called DTV and they refuse to send me a LCC. Any advice?
     

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