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Leaving DirecTV...yes, you read that correctly

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by bonscott87, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Problem with the Moxi box is that you have to use PlayOn for everything including Netflix and Hulu and it's frankly not as great as the dedicated applications. But it does work. PlayOn is also no longer free and has gone to a fee based service so there is some cost to it now.

    Other issue is that it's not as flexible as a full blown HTPC (plus the HTPC is also a BluRay player which I didn't have yet).

    But certainly an alternative. I looked at both Moxi and Tivo before deciding on just building an HTPC (for not really all that much more once you figure cost of stand alone Bluray player or PS3 and with Tivo, the crazy subscription fee).
  2. bidger

    bidger Hall Of Fame

    Nov 19, 2005
    And no access to over-the-air feeds either (for Cable only), which limits one's move away from pay TV tremendously.
  3. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Scott, happy it is working out for you. It is just too much mix and match for my tastes. And for sure too much effort for the vast majority of folks who are either technically challenged or just want one stop shopping.

    Of course I bank on tons of live sports...
  4. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Yea, if you live for live sports it's a tough one and probably not the answer.

    As for mix and match, it's not too bad. It's all done right from Media Center with the same interface and remote so very WAF (at least here). I guess if the wife can't be bothered to remember to go to Hulu for certain programs and Netflix for others then that's a problem. ;)

    Give things another 5 years or so and I think pay TV will start to get a run for their money.
  5. St Louis Cardinals Fan

    St Louis Cardinals Fan Legend

    Oct 21, 2006
    Best of luck in the future. You are always a good source for information.
    (P.S. I'll leave the light on for you)
  6. Matt9876

    Matt9876 Hall Of Fame

    Oct 11, 2007
    bonscott87, I've been seriously under employed for over a year and a half now and had to make some of the same moves you did.

    Drop DirecTV at $80 a mo :(,OTA and Windows media on cable Internet,about 5 months ago added Dishnetwork and single 211k unit on eastern arc,within weeks added external hard drive for a one time fee of $40.

    I'm OK with the results and saving $50 a month,also dropped AT&T and using MagicJack VoIP phone service, have prepaid $69 for the next 5 years.
  7. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL

    Keep on posting, like an ex-smoker, it will take someone like you to finally get through to someone like me.
    I am not a water cooler kind of guy, so I can see myself waiting for the blu-ray disc. But if I wanted to view these using Hulu or Playon, I assume they are not HD quality? So I would almost have to keep a list of the programs or series to order on disc.
  8. klambert

    klambert AllStar

    Feb 8, 2008
    The big question that I see is that a lot of the viability of this comes from streaming Hulu's huge library. They seem to be happy with college students who otherwise wouldn't be watching TV at all streaming Hulu onto laptops, but not quite so happy about middle aged families streaming it to their HDTV. It seems to me that they are relying on technological issues to keep their tv revenue stream, but use Hulu to groom new users.

    Here comes Boxee. It's incredible and with the box, it will be available to the masses. Hulu's already played games with Boxee trying to keep their stuff from working with it and Boxee has programmed workarounds. But that's Boxee as a computer program running on a full PC.

    When the Boxee Box comes out, which would make this kind of internet television pretty transparent and mainstream, is Hulu going to step up and try to block Boxee again?
  9. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Maybe. They haven't recently. But Hulu is rolling out their new paid service soon so at that point Boxee can probably just pay a license fee and be done with it and not worry.

    And yea, Hulu has been trying to keep off the HDTV in the living room (mainly because of pressure from the owners (NBC, FOX, ABC) but that pressure has lessened recently as they start to realize that they can really target ads at people. And I personally would pay $10 a month no problem to Hulu if I get access to all back catalog episodes (usually it's only the last 5 on current running seasons) AND they get CBS, Comcast and Time Warner on board as rumored.

    But it is pretty easy to bypass all the Hulu blocking stuff by just using an HTPC with Hulu Desktop (plugin for WMC available) and/or use Hulu thru PlayOn. Because at that point you are actually on a PC so nothing to "block".
  10. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Nope, they are not true HD. But Hulu high quality is pretty nice, better then SD so I'd say halfway between SD and HD....maybe DVD quality? Same for Netflix HD.

    Do I notice that it's not in HD at times? Sure. But again the money I'm saving is well worth it to me.

    With Hulu you can setup "season passes" they call subscriptions. And you can have it email you when a new episode is added to your queue. Thus just yesterday I got an email that the latest "In Plain Sight" episode was added to my queue. So I have subscriptions to all my fav cable shows that are available on Hulu and the episodes "just show up" for me to watch. For new shows sure, I have to search for them. But no different then having to setup a new season pass on a DVR.

    Netflix is a bit different but here is what I do: Every couple week or two I take a look at the box office numbers for any new movies in the theater and add any movies that interest me to my Netflix queue. 9 months later they show up at my door and I don't even remember adding them to my queue. Also I'll look into the future for any upcoming movies that interest me and add them to my queue as well.

    Same for TV series. I recently added Leverage Season 3 to my queue. If it ends up not being available streaming then the DVDs will show up at my house eventually.

    It's not for everyone but since I pay for Netflix anyway why pay $80 a month just to watch Leverage when it airs instead of 6-9 months later.

    At this point, even when I get a job again we don't plan to go back to pay TV. We can do much better things with that money. :)

    Keep the questions coming, I've got no problem answering them.
  11. Jul 8, 2010 #171 of 182

    ElVee Legend

    Nov 27, 2006
    I am also leaving DirecTv after 12+ years. I too, am not bashing DirecTv. Although I am still employed, money is getting tighter. When I first signed up for DirecTv (the USSB days!), I was single, renting and had no problem paying the bills. I've since married and we have a child, bought a house and things are a bit tighter.

    I truly enjoyed the service over the years, However, I cannot justtify the $160.06/month I was spending DirecTv. The monthly bill breakdown is:

    $114.99 - Premier package
    $5.99 - Protection plan
    $4.99 - HD Extra
    $10.00 - HD Access
    $7.00 - DVR service
    $20.00 - 4 Leased receivers
    -$5.00 - Credit for the Primary receiver
    $2.09 - Tax

    I am not going the route of BonScott87. I am switching to FIOS. I've looked over the channel lineup, and for our tastes, it's pretty much a wash (unless the Knicks sign Lebron! Then I will REALLY miss MSGHD!) Our tastes are pretty much network shows, movie channels and basic cable. In those cases FIOS matches or exceeds DirecTv's HD offering. While I am a sports fan, I really only care about my local teams (Mets, Giants, Islanders and Knicks), so I don't need the other RSN's. FIOS also has a much more diverse On Demand library,

    Also, I've already been a Verizon customer for years. I've been a Verizon Wireless and DSL customer since the late 1990's and switched to FIOS for home phone and internet in 2006. My total Verizon bill now is $280/month. Add in DirecTv and my total balloons to $440/month.

    With their latest triple play offer, I get their Ultimate HD package, multi-room HD DVR, 2 additional HD DVR's, SD receiver. Now, my total Verizon bill will be $350/month, a $90/month savings. No contract required.

    I am scheduled for the install tomorrow, and have 30 days to test drive it, with no cancellation fee. I have yet to call DirecTv to cancel my service and I expect that they will make some pretty serious offers to keep me, but nothing would match $90/month.

    As a guy who lives within walking distance of Cablevision headquarters, I've taken great pride in having my DirecTv dish peering off my roof at them. Many times I've delighted in chatting with the Cablevision door-to-door solicitors. I've always told them if I left DirecTv it would be for FIOS, not them. I always enjoyed watching them leave, shaking their heads after I told them precisely why I would never use their product (James Dolan!). Unless, of course I could get an IT job with them and be able to walk to work! :)

    Again, this is not to bash DirecTv. Strictly a comparison, and for my needs, the right time to make the switch. DirecTv has certainly been a leader in providing HD content and has forced the cable companies to try to follow suit.
  12. Jul 8, 2010 #172 of 182

    AMike Godfather

    Nov 21, 2005
    I have been in a similar position where I lost my job earlier this year (fortunately I just got a new one about a month ago). We were prepared financially for that to occur as best one could be since my former employer reorganized our group and of course we thought it would trickle down to me. After I was let go, I told my wife that we would have to evaluate our DirecTV services since at that time we were getting Premier and virtually every sports package available. I downgraded our service, added Netflix, enabled PlayOn streaming to all receivers, and dropped Extra Innings (added MLB.TV for $100 less than EI). I considered dropping D* completely and going the HTPC route, but my ETF nixed that idea. I have not missed the Premier package and now that I am working again, I have no intentions of having it reactivated.

    One item that I would bring up is the bandwidth cap issue. After making the changes mentioned above, we began burning through some bandwidth for streaming especially during the time that I was not working. And, yes, I do have an internet provider, Comcast, that has a cap on usage. I did some research on this issue and discovered a way around this issue. I switched to a Business Class Account. This gives me uncapped bandwidth at the same price I was paying for home internet service as well as much better and responsive technical support from Comcast (that's almost an oxymoron :) ).
  13. Jul 8, 2010 #173 of 182

    atmvoice New Member

    Nov 4, 2003
    Called and canceled today -- exactly, to the day, 12 years after getting Directv for the first time.

    Guy did not ask why, did not ask if I would consider staying, or anything. Just said "OK", told me I would be off by midnight and read a disclaimer about outstanding bills, PPV, etc. No thank you, no good bye, nothing. Took all of two minutes.

    Canceling was my intent, and no offer was going to keep me. But seems like a 12 year customer with a 100% on time payment record would at least get asked "why?", "what are you not happy with?", "or call us if you change your mind".

    I'm so glad to know that Directv did not value my business. :confused:

    **Cool Update** Just noticed after I posted that I've been a member at DBStalk.com for almost 7 years. It's really been longer than that; I remember re-registering years ago after I forgot my username. Never did post much, but I sure have enjoyed reading the forums over the years. Thanks for the memories. **sniff, sniff**
  14. Jul 8, 2010 #174 of 182

    JBernardK Legend

    Aug 16, 2006
    Don't worry, you will get lots of calls and mail from them in the next few months. :)
  15. Jul 8, 2010 #175 of 182

    JeffBowser blah blah blah

    Dec 21, 2006
    Another example of their incoherent front line strategy.

  16. Jul 8, 2010 #176 of 182

    CTJon Godfather

    Feb 5, 2007
    I too have just left after almost 12 years. Lost my job a year ago and could no longer afford the big house so just moved into a condo. Unfortunately I have no clear view of the southern sky from my condo. The condo comes with U-Verse so I have been using that for a couple of weeks.
    Folks you get what you pay for. Yes my U-Verse bill(TV, internet, and phone) is smaller than my DirecTV bill was but I'd trade back in a minute. Anyone who complains about the DirecTV DVR should try the U-Verse one - you'd stop complaining in a minute. I can't think of a thing about the U-Verse TV service that is equal to the DirecTV service.
    Sorry to leave but it couldn't be helped.

    One of the worst parts is that I can't find a forum as helpful and with anywhere as useful as this forum is.
  17. Jul 8, 2010 #177 of 182

    Brennok Legend

    Dec 23, 2005
    Yeah they still call me. I always listen to their offers, but they never help their cause with the lies they tell. I always get a kick out of it though.
  18. Jul 9, 2010 #178 of 182

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
  19. Jul 9, 2010 #179 of 182

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    Totally living on Hulu right now.

    Burn Notice
    Royal Pains
    In Plain Sight
    Covert Ops
    White Collar
    Wharehouse 13

    All new episodes within a week of broadcast.

    Who needs cable? LOL ;)
  20. Jul 9, 2010 #180 of 182

    Barcthespark Godfather

    Dec 16, 2007
    Are you watching them on a PC or through a connection to an HDTV? If connected to a TV, how is the quality?

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