Sorry to hear that nothing has changed since I left in 2004. I agree that DTV seems to have the upper hand in software up revs. I think the HR10 in its day was far and away the best DVR of the dozen or more I ever owned, but the level of reliability and GUI friendliness is now about the same on the HR2x. Each does certain tasks a bit better than the other. The HR2x's reliability has become significantly better over time while the reliability of the HR10-250 took a major hit with the release of 6.3, making them pretty even by now. The DISH DVRs were absolutely the worst, but I hear the 622/722 is a major improvement over them (and probably any improvement would be most welcome and hard NOT to be considered major). The elegance of the DTivo and the hamhandedness of DISH DVRs is what drove me away from DISH and towards DTV in the first place. Now that that particular playing field may have been leveled, I consider it a serendipitous chance of fate that the DBS vendor I am currently with also just happens to be the one leading the HD race fairly significantly at least for now (based on www.whereishd.com). I guess what is really puzzling is that the feature that folks miss the most on the HR2x is DLB and that has been well-known for about 2 years. One would think that if they are truly listening to feedback from their customers, that this is a feature that would be added. I honestly don't think it would ever matter to me, though. I had DISH and DTV for an overlap period in 2004. While I can't speak to HD quality, I noticed differences between SD channels. For the CONUS channels, DTV seemed to have a bit more mosquito noise, while DISH seemed to have a bit more quantization error noise, so it was a 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other situation. This is probably due to equipment differences and personal choice in how the encoding was set up, but it was uniformly so from channel to channel. It was not significant enough to rate one over the other, and there was no way to tell which service it was simply by looking at the video. For local-into-local channels, DISH is uneven, specifically because in many markets they still receive SD OTA (ATSC HD PQ is not degraded by OTA reception the way SD analog is), while DTV typically uses fiber feed backhauls directly from the local stations. This makes DTV better at LIL SD in many instances. Bottom line, I would have to be either very pissed off or very desperate to ever go back to DISH, as I regard them slightly inferior to DTV.