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LIN Media Restored on Dish Network

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by tecumseh, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. Mar 8, 2011 #101 of 154
    BenJF3

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    You want to stop all this nonsense altogether? Make television the way it was intended to be and eliminate ALL carriage fees. Open up everything and make it advertising based. You want cable or sat, fine - you pay a "service fee" for infrastructure. The programmers NEED MSO's to get their signal out. This is the way it was meant to be, but it got perverted and people got greedy. The result? Cable/Sat bills that are as high as car payments and a plethora of redundant channels and programming.

    We know that's not going to happen, so the next best thing would be Ala Carte offerings. Neither will happen...
     
  2. Mar 8, 2011 #102 of 154
    Lebowski13

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    FCC and government intervention in general has created the current monster that TV has become...not greed. Leave them alone and the market will eventually bear what we all want...it has to when the consumer is calling the shots.
     
  3. Mar 8, 2011 #103 of 154
    FTA Michael

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    The percentage suggests a multiple of 4. My blind guess would be that Lin used to charge 20 cents per sub per month and set its new desired fee at 55 cents. If it were 4 cents going up to 11, I think Dish would have paid it. :)
     
  4. Mar 8, 2011 #104 of 154
    RasputinAXP

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    Renob2317

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    That is good news. The only negative is with local sports. You would have to watch the local teams the other affiliate is showing. I am Indy and if the local CBS doesn't come back then I will not get to see most of the Colts games next season. Other than that I never watch CBS.
     
  6. Mar 8, 2011 #106 of 154
    tampa8

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    I am certainly glad it is being contemplated, but unless I actually see congress go against the NAB I won't get too excited.

    There of many of us who will pay to get distants from a city we have interest in and/or for time shifting. In that case I would not mind the distant network from getting income from that, as I am not likely to buy locally from their advertising. Maybe congress has heard enough of the ongoing problems and will make some changes in our favor.....
     
  7. Mar 9, 2011 #107 of 154
    Wilf

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    Never happen. Politicians get too much money from media companies. I must admit the older I get, the less tolerant I am of advertising. Even skipping forward through the ads is bothersome. We dropped the core package and added HBO and Netflix - pay TV without the ads - the way it should be - and cheaper.
     
  8. IndyTim

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    While it's not a big deal to me since I get a nice OTA signal for free (but paying for ALL HD locals), I am p-o'd that the guide doesn't show programming. Instead, for both the OTA and the sat listing, it says "Important News- Press Info!". It would be nice to know what's on the channel THAT I AM NOT WATCHING.
     
  9. SayWhat?

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  10. TonyT@DISH Network

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    Just to let you know, I have escalated the OTA guide data issues as a whole to the engineering department best suited to deal with this issue, in particular the LIN guide data issue. I also mentioned the other OTA guide data as a "while you are fixing". No ET on a fix yet, but ball is already rolling on it.
     
  11. Reaper

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    I would never have Dish Network without a good OTA antenna with good reception of my local channels.
     
  12. brucegrr

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    We live between Ft Wayne and Toledo. Toledo is our local on Dish. 50 miles from Toledo, 40 plus miles from Ft Wayne......leaves us with OTA channels that may or many not come in, and that's only if our antenna is on a tower. Since we don't have a tower we have no way to watch the Lin channel, Fox 36.

    It sucks. I hope this standoff is resolved soon. We don't watch a lot of Fox programming but we are missing House and American Idol.
     
  13. tampa8

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    You're the person who gets the raw end of the deal, can't reliably get locals from the antenna, and because of a dispute can't watch a couple of shows you really like. If you are in a white zone (sounds like you may be) you might be able gets distants from AAD....
     
  14. Gilitar

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    Thanks! Please keep us updated. If they can fix the guide for OTA it would save me from disconnecting my service.
     
  15. tampa8

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    ?? I'm, being honest, not snide. If that would make you switch to some other service, you should do it and be done with Dish. There will be other fights, other program guides not showing, or a favorite show not being broadcast in the future. Don't let the fact that other providers are now going through the same thing....and you might not have an OTA guide with any of them..deter you. I have learned you have to look at the whole service compared to others. If it isn't as good, switch. But you can't be upset over a bump in the road from time to time and pull the switch card...
     
  16. Gilitar

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    I just lost ABC family and Disney HDs and had to upgrade my programming to get them back a few months ago.... at some point it all becomes to much trouble. I do like Dish, but I like some stability in programming too.
     
  17. BenJF3

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    Well, think about what you just said there. You had to upgrade to get back channels you lost, but you want stability? You likely had to upgrade to a higher package because ABC Disney wielded it's program tying power and Dish had to pay excessive fees to get that, which in turn has them bump channels. The OTA nets are doing the same thing. By abusing FCC rules they are forcing Dish's hand. If Dish pays they may have to either move other channels or jack rates. These retrans disputes are ALWAYS Lose-Lose for the MSO and Subscriber.
     
  18. James Long

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    Actually he subscribed to a HD only package. When the HD versions were dropped he lost the channels. The SD versions continue to be carried but to receive them one has to change to a package containing the SD channels. (The HD packages were sold at a discount due to the SD channels they did not include.)

    At some point DISH has to decide if the price is worth the channel. Sometimes the answer is no and the channel goes away. DirecTV makes the same decisions - and has said no as well.
     
  19. tampa8

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    To be fair to Gilitar, if they can, Dish probably should have put the SD versions into the HD only if that is what happened.
     
  20. James Long

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    There is no if ... that is what happened with the ABC/Disney HD channels. There are several threads dating back to last year when it happened - and before that when ABC/Disney filed the lawsuit that ended up getting the channels pulled.

    "HD Only" is a pretty clear title. The only SD channels included are SD versions of the HD channels in the package, SD channels DISH is required to deliver (public interest) and shopping/infomercial channels that cost DISH more money to leave out than include. Plus local channels.

    On a national basis, making "HD Only" a package that includes a HD plus select subscription SD annoys the SD providers that are not in the package. Adding ABC Family, Disney, DisneyXD and ESPNNews in SD and not TVLand, Nick Jr, Nicktoons and Bloomberg is a non-starter.
     

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