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List of HD Local Markets NOT Available on Dish Network

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Adam Richey, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Oct 21, 2008 #1 of 235
    Adam Richey

    Adam Richey Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Kokomo, IN
    Hey everybody. I wanted to just edit my old post of this but couldn't find it. Here's just a concise list of HD local markets NOT on Dish Network yet as opposed to what they carry now. I have seperated the ones that are uplinked since they are more than likely coming sooner rather than later. I tried to label as many of the cities that I could that I knew are in line for local HD by the end of the year, and the rankings are based on Nielsen's 2008-2009 DMA rankings. Much thanks to Tony for his HUGE Dish User database that I used to confirm this information. Of course, anybody with any updates about what markets may be planned that aren't marked or any other status updates is welcome to post any information they have. I will do my best to keep this list up-to-date as well.

    Local Markets Uplinked

    DMA #78: Paducah / Cape Girardeau, KY (September 30th)
    DMA #97: Davenport / Moline, IA & Rock Island, IL (September 30th)
    DMA #102: Evansville, IN (November 18th)
    DMA #180: Marquette, MI
    DMA #207: Juneau, AK

    Local Markets NOT Available By DMA Rank

    DMA #69: Wichita / Hutchinson, KS
    DMA #80: Rochester, NY
    DMA #84: Shreveport / Bossier City, LA
    DMA #110: Tyler / Longview / Lufkin / Nacagdoches, TX
    DMA #111: Springfield / Holyoke, MA
    DMA #115: Augusta, GA
    DMA #122: Macon, GA
    DMA #128: Columbus, GA
    DMA #131: Amarillo, TX
    DMA #134: Wilmington, NC
    DMA #136: Monroe, LA & El Dorado, AR
    DMA #143: Lubbock, TX
    DMA #144: Salisbury, MD
    DMA #153: Bangor, ME
    DMA #154: Rochester / Austin, MN & Mason City, IA
    DMA #155: Bluefield / Beckley / Oak Hill, WV
    DMA #157: Binghamton, NY
    DMA #159: Wheeling, WV / Steubenville, OH
    DMA #163: Biloxi / Gulfport, MS
    DMA #164: Yuma, AZ / El Centro, CA
    DMA #167: Hattiesburg / Laurel, MS
    DMA #168: Clarksburg / Weston, WV
    DMA #169: Utica, NY
    DMA #172: Dothan, AL
    DMA #173: Jackson, TN
    DMA #175: Elmira / Corning, NY
    DMA #176: Lake Charles, LA
    DMA #177: Watertown, NY
    DMA #178: Harrisonburg, VA
    DMA #179: Alexandria, LA
    DMA #181: Jonesboro, AR
    DMA #182: Bowling Green, KY
    DMA #183: Charlottesville, VA
    DMA #186: Lima, OH
    DMA #187: Greenwood / Greenville, MS
    DMA #189: Lafayette, IN
    DMA #192: Bend, OR
    DMA #193: Parkersburg, WV
    DMA #195: Eureka, CA
    DMA #196: San Angelo, TX
    DMA #197: Casper / Riverton, WY
    DMA #199: Mankato, MN
    DMA #200: Ottumwa, IA / Kirksville, MO
    DMA #201: St. Joseph, MO
    DMA #203: Zanesville, OH
    DMA #204: Presque Isle, ME
    DMA #205: Victoria, TX
    DMA #206: Helena, MT
    DMA #208: Alpena, MI
    DMA #209: North Platte, NE
    DMA #210: Glendive, MT

    Anybody wanting a local channel list next to each market will not get it. Tony's Dish User web page will tell you everything you want to know about what's available currently and what's currently uplinked. I just don't have enough time to do that, and I think there are plenty of other resources out there for that information. Just look up (for example) DMA Salisbury or DMA Victoria on Google, and that was the easiest way for me to get relevant results.
  2. Oct 22, 2008 #2 of 235

    dennispap Icon

    Feb 1, 2007
    Hope you are correct about New orleans, la

    DMA #53: New Orleans, LA (4th Qtr 08)

    Was promised in 2006. Plus with Katrina, most N.O area people went to satellite in 2005-2006
  3. Oct 22, 2008 #3 of 235
    Adam Richey

    Adam Richey Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Kokomo, IN
    The information for most of the 4th Qtr 08 markets is not locked in stone. It's just an aimed-at goal that they hope to achieve.
  4. Oct 22, 2008 #4 of 235
    Bobby H

    Bobby H Legend

    Mar 23, 2008
    All of these markets were planned to have HD local channels added 10/22. This is the result of today's up link:

    DMA #71: Des Moines / Ames, IA 4 HD channels added
    DMA #76: Omaha, NE 3 HD channels added
    DMA #94: Waco / Temple / Bryan, TX 1 HD channel added (Temple)
    DMA #106: Lincoln / Hastings / Kearney, NE 1 HD channel added (Lincoln)
    DMA #137: Columbia / Jefferson City, MO 3 HD channels added
    DMA #145: Wichita Falls, TX / Lawton, OK nothing - missed out this time
    DMA #171: Quincy, IL / Hannibal, MO 1 HD channel added (Hannibal)

    St. Louis also had four HD local channels added to 61.5° today.

    There was a LOT of MPEG-4 SD channel additions.
  5. Oct 22, 2008 #5 of 235

    girdnerg AllStar

    May 17, 2007
    DMA #61: Tulsa, OK (PLANNED)

    I found a link here about this being planned for 2006. I can't find it now, but it was obviously wrong. Does your source have an update on this. A link would be appreciated.
  6. Oct 22, 2008 #6 of 235

    jclewter79 Hall Of Fame

    Jan 8, 2008
    Sheman/Ada was uplinked at 61.5 at one time and was also listed on the last Charlie Chat as planned for the next 30-45 days
  7. Oct 27, 2008 #7 of 235

    nitz369 AllStar

    Dec 15, 2005
    DMA #42: Las Vegas, NV (4th Qtr 08)

    Interesting... I thought we had to wait for the new sat to go up, and the last I heard was MAYBE by the end of 08 it would be launch obviously not operational.

    Anyone have any new info on the new sat? was it Ciel 2? I don't remember anymore, just know it is impossible for them to add anymore west coast HD Locals right now.
  8. Oct 27, 2008 #8 of 235

    loug1212 Cool Member

    Sep 21, 2007
    May as well add Wilkes Barre/Scranton PA to that list. Although we are liisted as one of the markets to have been upgraded to HD locals, only one station is in HD(WNEP). I don't consider that as having HD locals. Does anyone know why this happened?
  9. Oct 28, 2008 #9 of 235
    Calvin Carrigan

    Calvin Carrigan AllStar

    Dec 5, 2006
    I live in Jacksonville Florida and it say 4th qtr. 08. How will I know when this is done? Will they automatically pop up or do I need to scan?
  10. Oct 28, 2008 #10 of 235

    ZBoomer Icon

    Feb 21, 2008
    Depends - if the channels are on a satellite you already receive, they will just appear (assuming you pay for locals.)

    If on a separate satellite, a wing-dish would need to be installed to get them.
  11. Nov 2, 2008 #11 of 235

    mraub Legend

    Mar 4, 2004
    How much additional bandwidth is Dish going to need to cover all these markets? It seems like a truly massive amount.
  12. Nov 2, 2008 #12 of 235
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Not too bad as HD markets are added in MPEG4 on 8PSK transponders.
  13. Nov 2, 2008 #13 of 235

    redsalmon AllStar

    Oct 16, 2006
    Also via spot beam.:D
  14. Nov 3, 2008 #14 of 235

    JBT Cool Member

    Jul 7, 2008
    hmm Tucson AZ (PLANNED) when is that suppose to mean?
  15. Nov 3, 2008 #15 of 235

    dennispap Icon

    Feb 1, 2007
    That means " dont get your hopes up ":lol:
    New orleans hd locals were supposed to be on by Dec06, still waiting 11/08:mad:
  16. Nov 6, 2008 #16 of 235
    Adam Richey

    Adam Richey Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Kokomo, IN
    Planned generally means that Dish Network has announced their intentions to carry these locals within the next 12 months.
  17. Nov 7, 2008 #17 of 235

    BobaBird EKB Editor

    Mar 30, 2002
    Where did you find a Feb 2009 announcement for some markets?
  18. Nov 8, 2008 #18 of 235
    Adam Richey

    Adam Richey Hall Of Fame

    Mar 25, 2002
    Kokomo, IN
    The February 2009 announcement has been given by the Dish Network CSR's themselves, but there are several markets being launched on Eastern Arc on the 19th according to a post from somebody else. If that's true, some major markets that include Cincinnati and Louisville would get HD locals.
  19. Nov 8, 2008 #19 of 235

    Apothecon Cool Member

    Nov 1, 2006
    We have had all the other locals in HD for a number of months,but noABC-HD ??
  20. Nov 8, 2008 #20 of 235

    joenhre Cool Member

    Nov 8, 2008
    I guess I would be considered new here even though I've been reading these forums off and on for a few years now.However this is my first time posting.

    I just had something to say that has kind of been bothering me.I guess I'm probably in the minority with this point of view but I'm going to state it anyway.

    I'm one of those people who is still angry with the FCC and their "must-carry" law.I think they over-stepped their bounds forcing satellite and even cable companies to carry certain channels.Many of these channels can be picked up with something that has been around for nearly a century, that thing is called an antenna.This is the way most of us watched TV before we had access to Cable or Satellite TV service.

    I understand that there are some people that can not pick up their local networks OTA with an antenna, this is where satellite companies should be allowed to carry national network feeds (east feeds for Eastern/Central zones & west feeds for Mountain/Pacific zones)

    Wasting bandwidth carrying hundreds of channels, many showing basically the same programming much of the time, just does not make sense.With HD becoming the new standard, this bandwidth should be used for channels everyone can use.

    Sorry just had to vent a little bit here.Thanks for your time.

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