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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Chris Blount, Jan 8, 2007.
And, no dual live buffered DVR functionality.
Earl -- No doubt that some gamers will want to watch others play (just like golfers like to watch professional golf, or bowlers like to watch professional bowling).
But my criticism was in response to Sbcale saying that the press conference was "a real let down".
When their industry is facing so many changes, and their technology is facing so many challenges, a major announcement of an international gaming league is a non-announcement. It is almost as if the people running DTV are admitting that they don't know where to focus or what to do next.
This press conference was very disappointing.
I just went through the Dish blog from Echostar..
What was so "Earthshattering" and better then the DirecTV one?
They both talked about HD in 2007. Dish touted they are the leader with 30... DirecTV talked about (and gave names) of the networks they are looking to carry once the Sats are up.
Dish talked about their "plan" changes... Is that important for CES?
DirecTV didn't talk about any plan changes.
Dish announced that their DVR was available for free...
The R15 is already available for "free"... but again.. that is just a sales thing.
Dish: HDVOD in 2007
Direct: No comment if HD is part of the OnDemand package or not
Dish: iTV to add to existing
Direct: Also commented that their interactive will be increasing
Dish: New ViP receivers focust on HD and MPEG4, with IpTV support
DirecTV: No mention of new receivers, but then again.. the HR20 was JUST released...
Dish: Jab at DirecTV that they are easier to install because of one cable.
DirecTV: Didn't talk about FTM...
Dish: Planned External USB Support
DirecTV: Already has external support for their DVR, just not "official"...
Dish: DishOnline (Vod/Internet Library)
DirecTV: Did discuss their OnDemand product.
Dish: I don't know what Archos products are, so... not sure if that is new receivers or not.
DirecTV: Talked about their SATGO receiver.
That was going down the Dish Blog from engadget.. and comparing it to DirecTV's.
DirecTV talked about their NASCAR and Gameing "initatives" .
Dish talked a little bit about their relationship with "SlingBox" as an "investor".
Then you had the Q/A...
So what was so earth shattering in Dish's that trumpted DirecTVs.. ?
Both lacked earth shattering announcements.
Not much of either one was really "unknown" going in.
try TWO years ago...
Archos makes portable video players.
Earl -- I didn't pay attention to the Echostar announcements; I wasn't comparing DTV to Echostar. But in reading through the Echostar release notes, it seems that their press conference centered around HD availability, pricing, new receiver technology (including multiroom service from one receiver) and content portability. DTV's presentation centered on the Gaming League, portable receiver, and Nascar, with some additional comments on new HD channels, and Video-on-demand concepts.
I already have my Archos 504 docked to my HR20.
Just as I was getting disapointed in what was said here I thought about the PC card and as it is a "Vista thing" they may save it for the 29th like all of the hardware vendors are doing for the most part.
I'm confused Why did chase announce that D* would carry some "HD Channels" the providers themselves no nothing about (ex SCI FI).. Perhaps he was just blowing more smoooke
I think many were simply looking for more firm info...thats all we have heard for years is, "its coming", or "sometime in the next 6-10 months" or "we are working on it."
And the continual crap spewing out of D* executives mouths about superiority in their picture quality is downright maddening.
What I wanted to hear included: (hopefully, will hear tomorrow at the Citi one)
**HMC (seems dead to most now) - the HR20 is nice (when working), but where is that vaunted high end HD DVR?
**Preview of the new graphical interface launching in early 2007 for the HR20 (show us the cool goodies, neat stuff)
**ACKNOWLEGEMENT and CONFIRMATION that HD quaility will be IMPROVED in 2007 (more bandwith/bitrate)...this I can conclude is a pipedream.
**ACKNOWLEGEMENT that stability and what not will improve on the HR20 in 2007.
**Simply more previews and what not of their HD plans? When EXACTLY, what EXACTLY. God knows $10 for 7-8 HD Lite channels isnt going to play much longer. GIVE US SOME NUGGETS at least.
Maybe its just me ...
Do you really need HD for a tailgating party? I'm not a tailgater, but how big are these TVs people are bringing with them? Are people really dragging out sets large enough to take advantage of HD?
Unless, they have already been in discussions with them... either to re-new carraige agreements, or had discussions on what their plans where for 2007...
And being proactive to get carraige agreements...
And being proactive to make sure that their systems (DirecTV's) are ready and in place, so when those networks are ready to go live... DirecTV is able to carry them on Day 1.
Just like DirecTV doesn't always come out and tell us what channels are going and when.... It wouldn't be too surprising that the carriers, are staying closed lipped on their HD offereings, until they have more concret attainable dates.
I met it as a joke...
But with some of these HD LCD's being less then $1,500... I can easily see some of these people starting to bring these 42" systems out to tailgates.
From Engadget's DTV press conference coverage:
Q: Can you clarify the fact that you have networks listed as future HD, but they have yet to announce them in HD.
A: We have discussed HD carriage with these companies, so you might consider this the announcement.
Just keep shaking my head ... so bummed ...
Expected a highlighted Black HR20 up on the screen ...
Feeding other HR20's (MRV) or other slave units throughout the home ...
They'd mention on-demand and a Netflix/Amazon Unbox-type download service ...
They'd show how you can on-line schedule anything from the DirecTV web-site ...
A new HD photo's and MP3 UI would be coming Q1 for a true full-home media player ... (yep, I know we already have the tiny UI today)
Dual buffers might even be hinted at ...
HR20 would show the eSATA support with some cool looking DirecTV Black eSATA enclosure (for huge DB35 drive) ... (yep, know you can mostly do this yourself today) ...
They'd show a portable unit hooked to the front of the HR20 USB for DirecTV2GO ... they'd pull the unit out and take content on the road ....
They'd also show that content can be backed up and watched on a PC (D*TG) over the network ...
Now I figured that not everything would be shown today but probably a few cool things ...
Today would be a major milestone and put the Series3 comparisons behind them ...
Was a total 0-for-everything ... nothing ... a $1500 camping trip device and the ability to watch gamers ...
Only good news is that TiVo didn't announce anything either. Was sure that a TiVo Series3 Netflix or Amazon partnership would be announced today ...
Sure hope Chase has more to say at the event tomorrow ... today was a bummer.
Scores of large screen TVs, connected to DTV, have graced the campus of LSU on home saturdays since they first hit the market. Yep, even CRT RPTV.:lol: My favorites are the flat panels that are mounted to the underside of truck bedcovers, and the ones mounted into the sides of the really large, bus sized RVs where the cargo compartment used to be. Needless to say, this new product will, at least, make the dish pointing easier.
That's a valid point, Earl. E* has a history of making a lot of promises and then delivering on select ones.
I'm really disappointed that the MS/D* PC tuner card and Media Server are now apparently vaporware. When it got no mention during MS' key note speech last night, I took that as a bad sign.
Lightweight LCD's, yes I have seen them, and brought one before. but when teh game is about to start, take back to your car and lock them up.
This was just posted in another thread.
Link to Reuters article: Article
Few more announcements and info here then they had at their CES conference.
Couple highlights I liked.
Earl has been talking about this for a while.
This must be an online portal to the VOD service.