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Local Stations Moving from 72.5 Sat. to 99 or 103 Sat.

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jan 21, 2009.

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  1. Jan 22, 2009 #41 of 183
    Satelliteracer

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    Correction...and that will be corrected on the website...the R15/R16 will likely be replaced with a R22 which is MPEG4 capable but not HD Ready...yet. It may have those capabilities but right now it is not.
     
  2. Jan 22, 2009 #42 of 183
    Rockaway1836

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    You may be correct. I know they updated a friends SD receivers a while back. They even had RF modulators with them for his old TVs. (which surprised the hell out of me) But they did leave the 72.5 dish in place.

    This morning after browsing this thread, I called another friend that still has SD receivers and a 72.5 dish to give him a heads up. He called D at the number from Doug's link, and was told they are not changing this area over yet.

    That's why I question why Myrtle Beach is on the list as already having been changed. As I said earlier, if I disconnect the 72.5 I lose the SD locals. If I connect it back up I get them. Maybe, they have everything in place and have just to throw the switch. (so to speak) I don't know???
     
  3. Jan 22, 2009 #43 of 183
    Doug Brott

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    I updated the second post in this thread .. Apparently not everything has been done yet, but the list should be the markets that either (1) have already switched or (2) will switch at some point in the future.

    The first post in this thread lists the markets that are affected starting this week. As Satelliteracer pointed out, this is a process and will take some number of months to complete so there is still plenty of time left.
     
  4. Jan 23, 2009 #44 of 183
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    I am new here so please bear with me if I kinda dont make sense :lol:

    My setup consists of two round dishes...the 101 and 72.5 for local. I'm in the Traverse City/Cadillac Mi area so I'm guessing this whole switch will affect me sooner rather than later. I have two recievers, the main one is an R15 DVR, and in my bedroom is a Hughes SD-DVR 40 with Tivo.

    My question is, do i have to give up my Tivo? Are they gonna force me out of it? I dont watch much local at all in my bedroom (actually, only my mother uses the R15, I watch in my room mostly) so I really dont care if I get local on it or not. Is the new dish they will install compatible with my Tivo unit? I cant stand the R15 unit at all, and I dont want to give up my Tivo as it works perfectly (knock on wood).

    Any info here will be greatly appreciated. Thanks:)
     
  5. Jan 23, 2009 #45 of 183
    KSbugeater

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    Question for Satelliteracer:
    Is there a way to get the replacement unit direct shipped instead of installed for customers who have an MPEG4-capable dish already but one R10 in a fleet of HRs?
     
  6. Jan 23, 2009 #46 of 183
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    +1. I already took down my 72.5 dish this fall, all I need is to swap boxes.
     
  7. Jan 23, 2009 #47 of 183
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    Before I can try to answer, first does your Mother still want the locals? If not then you may as well turn off the locals in your basic package, keep the same equipment and just take down the 72.5 dish once your market fully transitions to 99/103 Ka band. To my knowledge DirecTV will not force you to convert and change-out your equipment to continue to receive your SD LiLs.
     
  8. Jan 23, 2009 #48 of 183
    paulh

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    Well, this may or may not be the coolest thing ever!

    Questions? Can we yet request a SWM install? How about the 99 101 103 only dish?

    My current Dish location (on the back of the guest house) cannot get 110 and 119 (trees) and I'd rather keep the dish out of the way. And, I installed my new wiring (in wall, then 75' underground to my house) a year before KA, so it's not solid copper core and the length is probably out of the KA spec, anyhow. I'd imagine SWM would be the only thing that would work, short of adding a 2nd dish on a pole in front of my house (won't happen again, had to remove the old BUD first thing when we moved in)

    Next question, what are my chances of losing my grandfathered Total Choice (with WGN) and what may be my grandfathered Primestar free extra receiver (I've never paid a mirroring fee)?

    As far as replacement equipment, the FAQ says:
    Will the replacement equipment be HD capable?
    Yes. The great news is that the replacement equipment is 100% HD ready so you won't need any additional HD equipment from DIRECTV. However, an HD television is required to view HD along with a subscription to HD Access from DIRECTV.
     
  9. Jan 23, 2009 #49 of 183
    stp890

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    I just placed my call. I realize everyone's experience may vary, but here was mine for what it's worth. I called and was immediately told I was eligible to have my dish and receivers upgraded. I said that's great, but my dish was already upgraded (I have one HR20 already). So the CSR says with a perplexed tone in her voice "So, you don't want your dish upgraded?" She did some more checking and then realized I only needed to have the 2 receivers upgraded. I asked about having them shipped but she said they have to be installed. That's fine, maybe the installer will just leave them with me... no big deal. We got everything set up and then I asked if the replacement for my R15 will be an R22 or an HDDVR. She said it will be an R22, so I asked if I could get a discount on an HDDVR instead of the R22.... after a looooong pause, she says yes I can get it for a discount. Did I want to do that? Umm, sure, how much is the discount? After another long pause, she says, umm, it's free. Needless to say, it's being upgraded to an HDDVR. She starts to enter it in the computer and says since I already have the right dish, do I want it shipped or have an installer come out.... HUH? "I'd like it shipped please." I don't know what the difference is between 5 mins ago when it had to be installed, but I guess my HRxx will be shipped and I have an installer coming Monday morning for 30 seconds to swap my D11 for an Hxx. Oh well, I'm glad she was helpful and they are doing all of this for free. Confused as I may be, I'm still happy about the service. Now we just wait and see if my bill turns out right. :)
     
  10. Jan 23, 2009 #50 of 183
    paulh

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    Why does their FAQ say:
    What happens if I do not call to exchange my equipment?
    The replacement equipment is required to receive local channels in your area. Customers without the updated equipment will be unable to see their local channels after the satellite transition is completed. Please call as soon as possible to schedule your equipment exchange.

    and

    How much time do I have?
    The transition will happen soon in 2009. Due to the volume of customers needing an equipment exchange, we are encouraging customers to make their equipment exchange installation appointment as soon as possible. Installation appointments will fill up quickly.
     
  11. Jan 23, 2009 #51 of 183
    orbit626

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    My mom does still want the locals, as thats what she watches 50% of the time. However, as I said, I barely watch local, maybe for the area news but thats about it with my Tivo. Other than that, I really dont care if I get local in my room.

    Is it "ok" to have one receiver able to get local and the other not? I guess I just feel like since everything I get that I actually watch comes from the 101 sat, I should not have to give up a piece of equipment that works fine and that frankly, I love. :) Not to mention the fact that I own the receiver and its NOT leased. Since its mine, it works, I feel I should have the choice to keep it!
     
  12. Jan 23, 2009 #52 of 183
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    Thanks for all the answers.

    One final one, though. PBS HD isn't available in my area yet. Does anyone know if the PBS SD stations would be on those satellites yet? That may also may be why my area isn't on the list yet. But I could live with a free AM21 as well. :D

    I have noticed that PBS HD in general is filling in the lower DMAs faster than would otherwise be needed. Rochester, NY, was one of the first markets to get PBS HD.
     
  13. Jan 23, 2009 #53 of 183
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    OK;

    As I said, I know of no policy of coercion that DirecTV will use to force you to give up the DirecTIVO. But ask customer service anyway to confirm, and if they give you any hassles insist to speak with retention about it. However since your Mother still wants the locals DirecTV will have to eventually upgrade the R15 to an R22 and whatever dish you are using to pick up the 101 signal, Phase I,II,or III, will have to be replaced with a larger Ka/Ku band ODU of either the Slimline 3 or 5 variety.
     
  14. Jan 23, 2009 #54 of 183
    stp890

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    UGH!!! That didn't take long. I checked online and low and behold, there's an order for an HDDVR for $199 (+fees = $235) and the order for upgrading my D11 to an Hxx was canceled. I call to confirm that the installation appointment was canceled and that CSR said it had been canceled but knew nothing about the local swap so I just had her leave everything alone. I call the special number back and a very nice lady says the order for the non-DVR was canceled and there was no mention of any credits for the HRxx. She says there are no discounts for HRxx's in relation to the local swap so she doesn't know where the other CSR came up with the free HDDVR and she didn't add any notes so she can't honor it. The best she could do was $75 off any new hardware which would make it $124. I tried to mention they are basically giving me $99 for free for swapping to the R22, combine that with my $75 credit and I'd take an HRxx instead of an R22 for $25 but she said she can not combine them like that. So I'm back to an R22 and Hxx for free, both to be installed Monday morning. The credit for -$235 *should* be on my account in 3-5 days. Here's to hoping!
     
  15. Jan 23, 2009 #55 of 183
    HoTat2

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    Well;

    It's entirely up to you, but me personally, I wouldn't leave it at that since this is not what appears to be worded in the DirecTV FAQ on the transition. The "FREE" equipment is supposed to be HD ready for whenever you subscribe to HD service. In fact it's stated as one of the major advantages of this swap-out. And since you already have HD service then they should up-grade you to a free HR21/22/23-xxx and H20/21-xxx STB. Did you speak with a supervisor or better yet retention?
     
  16. Jan 23, 2009 #56 of 183
    stp890

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    Based on SatRacer's comment above though, I don't know that I'll get anywhere with it. I already have an HR20 and HD service so I guess I just wait for them to enable the HD features on the R22.

    The only place I see room to make an argument is in transferring the discount ($99) from an R22 to an HRxx and then using whatever perks you have built up on your account. So if you're a fairly new customer, you'd still have to pay $100, or get if cheaper if you have longevity or the other benefits that get you discounts.
     
  17. Jan 23, 2009 #57 of 183
    orbit626

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    Thank you for the reply. I guess my only question now is, is my Tivo receiver compatible with any of those dish types? See, I've been with DTV since 1996. I've never had to replace the dish or anything, other than adding the 72.5 for locals when they became available. So I dont really know anything about this Phase I,II,or III dish stuff. I've just had the one (101) main dish since the get go.

    I dont want to come across as a "crybaby" or anything, it's just that I really love my DirecTivo. And I dont want to give it up for what amounts to 4 channels that I basically never watch.
     
  18. Jan 23, 2009 #58 of 183
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    The oldest receiver out there should work just fine with a new dish as long as it isn't SWM. They still put the signal from 101 on there the same way.
     
  19. Jan 24, 2009 #59 of 183
    Bucatrain40

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    The quote of the replacement equip being HD capable is not on the link anymore.
     
  20. Jan 24, 2009 #60 of 183
    Bucatrain40

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    link on post #11
     

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