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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by stetterhawk, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. SledgeHammer

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    Depends on if he wants the 4K ;). If he wants the 4K, you are correct, the HS17 will be cheaper since you'll only get charged for one outlet. If OP wants 4K and gets the HR54 he'd need to go through a client anyways and get hit for 2 outlets.

    If you don't care about 4K, the HR54 is a single box solution where as the HS17 is a 2 box solution.

    So, it really all goes back to if OP wants the 4K content... me personally, I'm not paying $8 - $30 for basterdized 4K ;). I can get actual 4K for less.
     
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  2. SledgeHammer

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    If you go with the HR54, all you'd need to do is replace your existing multi-switch with a SWM-8 and then you could hook your HR54 up. You'd only need one of the RG6 runs. HR54 is single wire.

    I'm not sure if the HS17 works with the SWM-8 and there is actually a new reverse band LNB that may or may not get used some day for 4K. If you swap the LNB, then you don't need the SWM-8.

    I think your first step is to check out the DirecTV 4K offerings and see if you want it or not.
     
  3. Athlon646464

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    Yes. :thumbsup:
     
  4. slice1900

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    If you get an upgrade from Directv that includes '4K' they will replace the 4 wire LNB with a reverse band LNB that uses a single wire. While an HS17 technically works with a SWM8/SWM16, Directv does not support that and won't allow that configuration in a residential install.
     
  5. SledgeHammer

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    Do they care enforce it? When I called 1 - 2 yrs ago to try to get a HR54 drop shipped, no matter how much kicking and screaming I did, they said the system won't let them since it says I have a legacy 4 wire and the HR54 requires a SWM. I told them I had a SWM-8 and they still wouldn't budge. When I called last week to finally upgrade, they couldn't care less that I wanted to do a self install.
     
  6. Rich

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    Never had just one HR, not sure what happens.

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  7. RAD

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    With either DVR I'd make sure the tech replaces your LNB with a new SWiM LNB, it will use only one wire.
     
  8. stetterhawk

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    The new SWiM LNB will work with HR54 ? because I think the 4K from DTV would be down the road in the distant furture not now with what is offered. Looks like my 4K content will come from other source for now
     
  9. stetterhawk

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    doesn't the SWM-8 need power source to work? I seem to remember this from years ago. finding power for it would be a pain.
     
  10. stetterhawk

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    Also if I don't get 4K from dish the HR54 would only be 1 outlet?
     
  11. SledgeHammer

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    If you don't care about 4K now and you have one TV, definitely get the HR54 as the HS17 is a 2 box solution and is a vertical form factor if that matters to you. Also, it doesn't support the AM21 if you care about OTA.

    The HR54 requires a single wire setup. You can either do it by replacing the LNB or by using a SWM-8. The LNB goes at the dish obviously, but the SWM-8 is something that would go in your attic. Yes, the SWM-8 requires an electrical outlet for the power inserter. If you replace the LNB, you don't need power.

    My dish is on a 2 story roof and I'm not climbing up there lol, so I like the SWM8 in the attic as I can service it myself. I recently had to. Plus there is power in the attic. Easy peasy.
     
  12. stetterhawk

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    sounds like your answer Sledgehammer is going to be it. my locals all are on the dish and I live too far away for ota sub channels. I will have to call DTV and feel them out. Been offered upgrades in the past so will work to get what I need. Thanks everybody for the input. Any one else have anything else chime in
     
  13. trh

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    I don't have the SWM8, but I have the SWM16 which also requires power. But while my SWM16 is mounted outside the house, the power inserter is inside the house and it uses the coax that comes into the house to feed the power back to the SWM16.

    Isn't that how the SWM8 also works? I'm only asking because from stetterhawk's question, there seems to be a concern over getting power to a SWM8, where if it is like the SWM16, the wiring is probably already in place.
     
  14. SledgeHammer

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    The SWM8 is the same. The PI is separate and connected via coax. I mounted both inside. Its up to you I guess. To me, I'd rather have the SWM8 hidden then nailed up on the side of the house.
     
  15. SledgeHammer

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    Make sure they book it as an upgrade and not a new box. If you do upgrade + self install, then its a 1 yr contract, otherwise its 2 yrs. Also, surprisingly call the tech support department. I did this upgrade last week and the loyalty dept wouldn't comp me the HR54, but the tech support department would.
     
  16. trh

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    With cathedral ceilings, there is no way to get up in the attic. And my SWM is adjacent to my outside box where all my home runs start.
     
  17. inkahauts

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    Yes, because that old system won't support 4k in their system since 4k requires BSS and 11 tuners which you can't get any other way than with the proper lnb (they wont use the big swim switch for non commercial I don't think.)
     
  18. inkahauts

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    I must have missed something, why are you saying 4k costs more? It doesn't cost any more than an hr54 if you have an hs17 and a c61k.
     
  19. inkahauts

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    HS17 and a hr54 can both supply power to the lnb for you if they move to a lnb setup. You won't even need an outboard PI.

    Personally Id do the 4k setup because then you'll be out of contract in two years and there's no reason I can think of not to just go ahead and get 4k since it'll end up being the same price. Plus it gives you double the recording space since the hs17 has a 2tb drive in it vs a 1tb drive.

    Directv does have something you likely can't get elsewhere in 4k right now, and that's some sports.
     
  20. SledgeHammer

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    If you have one TV and want 4K = HR54 + C61K (2 outlets) vs. HS17 and a client (1 outlet).
     

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