If you have one TV and want 4K, the HS17 option is cheaper. Otherwise, there are plenty of reasons not to get the HS17: 1) vertical form factor (yes, this can be an issue for some people with limited room) 2) 2 box solution (also an issue for some people) 3) no AM21 support 4) no 4K content (believe it not, not everybody watches sports ). OP said he doesn't care about OTA, but he wasn't swayed by the current 4K offerings. So he probably preferred the 1 box solution vs. the 2 box solution. I just had to make this call last week and #1 & 2 is a huge inconvenience for me. 3 is kind of an issue too. #4 makes it all a moot point. I'm not going to pay $8+ for a 24 hr rental anymore then I'm going to pay $20 for an hour of porn. How much do I care about sports? -infinity. Maybe even less then that. And come on, when have you ever used 11 tuners? That's like people who use their hummers or lambos to go grocery shopping.