Looks Like FoxNews' Turn (FOX News and FOX Business down 12/21/2014 and back 1/15/2015)

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  1. Jan 9, 2015 #341 of 519
    Jaspear

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    Fox News' total audience down over 21% since Dish blackout started

    According to an article from Multichannel News a couple of days ago, there have been no negotiations since December 20th.

    The Fox suits are getting antsy while Charlie sits by the phone. :)
     
  2. Jan 9, 2015 #342 of 519
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    DirecTV subscriber here.

    A friend of mine made the switch from Dish Network to DirecTV during the Dish Network-vs.-AMC Networks dispute.

    "18 years" is loyalty. I've been with DirecTV for 16 years. In March, it will be 17 years.

    The switches also have a lot to do with, "One company has something I want; the other does not." Example of Dish Network having it over DirecTV is with Pac-12 Network.

    I hope, for the sake of subscribers of Dish Network, that there will be no more Dish Network-vs-programmers disputes for quite some time.

    All the best to subscribers! (No matter from which company you get your cable-television programming.)
     
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  3. Jan 9, 2015 #343 of 519
    inkahauts

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    I wonder how all the news channels Have done the last couple days.
     
  4. Jan 9, 2015 #344 of 519
    Jaspear

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    In the prime demo, here are the numbers through Wednesday:

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    Also a new article from The International Business Times with this:

     
  5. Jan 9, 2015 #345 of 519
    inkahauts

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    Interesting as every time I went by FOX they had people in a discussion about it here and every time I went by cnn they where talking to reporters there. I'm sure both did both I just kept catching them both that way and found it funny. I didn't sit on the channel for 30 minutes though.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2015 #346 of 519
    James Long

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    "The Scoreboard: Wednesday, January 7" -
    Total day: FNC: 240 | CNN: 289 | MSNBC: 103 | HLN: 123
    Primetime: FNC: 353 | CNN: 390 | MSNBC: 164 | HLN: 106

    "The Scoreboard: Thursday, January 8" -
    Total day: FNC: 235 | CNN: 219 | MSNBC: 89 | HLN: 94
    Primetime: FNC: 374 | CNN: 276 | MSNBC: 140 | HLN: 89

    Fox won Monday and Tuesday as well.

    Headline News won Sunday:
    Total day: FNC: 104 | CNN: 135 | MSNBC: 100 | HLN: 141
    Primetime: FNC: 78 | CNN: 160 | MSNBC: 138 | HLN: 179

    It looks like CNN did the best on Wednesday night with the breaking news of the initial attacks and Fox rebounded the next day when the news was slower. I look forward to seeing Friday numbers based on today's activity.
     
  7. Jan 9, 2015 #347 of 519
    James Long

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    CNN is good at being there on international stories. I really appreciate CNN international coverage after midnight. They even carved out a few minutes last night to talk about the AirAsia recovery (apparently they heard pings yesterday).
     
  8. Jan 9, 2015 #348 of 519
    inkahauts

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    Yeah, CNNI is nice after midnight I agree...
     
  9. Jan 9, 2015 #349 of 519
    Tiki God

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    First DirecTV snag.

    I registered at their site and saw they already had my first bill already for me to pay, which is odd since they just installed yesterday. The promotional discount as written on my work order and as explained to me was 39.00 for 12 months, while the bill shows the discount as $29.00. I just spent 20 minutes on the phone with them, but was told they would have to review it and get back to me within 7 days. Not starting off on the right foot. :nono2:
     
  10. Jan 9, 2015 #350 of 519
    TechnoCat

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    Not so much for France; Fox and Sky (I think) are real tight. Fox got spanked, and Dish is why.
     
  11. Jan 9, 2015 #351 of 519
    TechnoCat

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    The most interesting thing about the media coverage is that they're reporting the Fox claim of 90K Dish viewers switching... which was without any basis or cites, just "Fox internal research", as Fox winning, while largely glossing over the 21% ratings decline in FNC... and the first two Sundays in thirteen years of FNC getting below 100K viewers total for Sunday. Fox is, percentage-wise, hurting more even if you believe the numbers with all the veracity of "climate scientists" with no actual data. (For a view of how they got that number... click here.) Dish has probably lost viewers, but it would be rather difficult for 90K viewers to switch that quickly even if they wanted to. And 90K of 14M is a lot less than 21%. (For MSNBC viewers, it's less than 1%.)

    That's important stuff to understand. Fox understands messaging to the media- they are the media. But it really looks like Dish is winning the war. Of course this is really Charlie vs Rupert, so it may all become two dismembered zombies ineffectually flailing at each other before their egos wind down, but given that Dish also made a really big deal of their Sling-TV at CES this week (which is not related to Sling player; it's just a subscription viewing like Netflix or HBO-GO for normally broadcast channels), Charlie may not even care if both sides die.
     
  12. Jan 9, 2015 #352 of 519
    inkahauts

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    Did you do a refer a freind to get some of it by chance? That actually takes an extra cycle to kick in usually
     
  13. Stewart Vernon

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    From the Keep Fox News Web site...

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    Ok, so now that my LiLs are back I can turn some attention here.

    Two things strike me about the biggest text portion of the FOX Web site setup to discuss their side of this dispute...

    1. "Dish is censoring your news." - No, Dish isn't. I don't subscribe to my local newspaper, but that doesn't mean I'm censoring the news for the other people in my home. I also don't subscribe to various online Web sites for news... that's not censoring. Dish not having a contract with FOX to carry their news channel has ZERO in common with censoring news.

    2. The "what you're missing" section is amusing... because they list a bunch of shows I recognize as airing on FOX News... then at the end (far right) it says "and you have also lost FOX Business." I find that amusing, because it is FOX basically saying even they don't think you're missing much by not having FOX Business channel since they couldn't be bothered to list all the shows that air there that you are missing.
     
  14. Tiki God

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    No, I just signed up Monday for myself, no referrals. Funny thing is they said they would have to let the higher-ups render a decision and they would let me know within 7 days. I'm not quite sure of what their decision would be other than to give me what they promised me in writing.
     
  15. audiomaster

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    I don't care about the sports, but I miss waking up to the hot blonde babes on Fox in the AM! Gets your blood moving!
    Has anyone on here contacted Dish and been able to get a refund or comps for this lack of one of the networks on Dish? If so what are they willing to do for us long time subscribers? I am paying for a total of 2 Hoppers and three Joes at two houses!
     
  16. thomasjk

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    Yes you can get credits from Dish. You have to call and ask. Or try this site http://dishstandsforyou.com/ and leave feedback. I received a $50 credit from the site.
     
  17. nmetro

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    What we are missing is more or less a talk show channel, not a news channel. No different than CNN or MSNBC. Except when there is a major news story, none of these channels can guarantee 24/7 news coverage. Al Jazeera America comes close, as it has 12 hours of news a day, by alternating between news and documentaries.

    FOX News may have the highest ratings, because it yells the loudest. I do miss it, juts like I did not miss CNN when it was off DISH for a month.

    I have some overseas streaming options when I want to watch news.


     
  18. inkahauts

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    Someone should be fired for using the word censorship. I have no respect for anyone or any channel that compares their lack of being able to come to a carriage agreement with the type of goal that the terrorist have in attacking Paris this week.

    I wish DIRECTV and everyone could drop them all at once now and make them go under. It's blatant they are using that word right now this week.
     
  19. Rduce

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    No longer having DISH, I now have my local cable companies bottom tier package, I can tell you that as for yesterday morning's coverage CNN had much better coverage than either FOX or MSNBC. I flipped back and forth during breaks and CNN hands down covered it better. The only time I watch any news network is when there is something breaking.
     
  20. WestDC

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    Like CNN because - Cristin Ap- called the Muslims in France "Activist" That makes them much nicer
     

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