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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Nashcat, Dec 14, 2014.
Significantly, Dish has NOT denied those numbers. Interesting.
Interesting, but NOT expected... by ANYBODY.
Some claims are to stupid to merit an official response.
both by Dish and here...
Significantly, you also haven't denied that rumor that you steal from children. Even more interesting! What exactly are you hiding?
Dish nor anyone else ever deny or confirm those kinds of numbers really.. And why should they? And if yu do the math, which I am sure they have, I bet they would have to lose well over a million customers for this dispute to start hurting their bottom line...
Lots of bloviating and personal attacks in this thread. Can we just stick to the status of the negotiations, if and when there are updates.
I don't see where anyone's political preferences should be here. Go blow your smoke at some PAC website or elsewhere.
This thread is quite tame as compared to some of the ones on the other "guys" site. It's the Wild Wild West over there. This has been well moderated, and it's been my experience that most folks here are quite civil. And I thank them for that.
There is not one channel out there important enough to switch from Dish. Taking that in mind, I may miss a channel, but too much work to switch, plus with Direct, I would lose some other channels I watch with Dish, and down the road Direct can lose a channel I may want anyway. Until the time comes where we have the choice to buy each channel from the owner of the channel, this song & dance will continue.
Who are you to judge and belittle anyone else"s opinion? Fox News is a superb combination of news and entertainment for some of us and it is remarkably balanced in allowing opinion from all sides. The news programs are more fair than any other network that I have watched, or have been forced to watch during this dispute. So, we are sheep for enjoying the channel?
I won't leave Dish, but I will add a DirecTV HD receiver to our family room TV if not settled by next week - because I can afford it and I am not about to give up my Hoppers.
DISH is not forcing anyone to watch any channel. DISH does not currently have permission to carry Fox News and Fox Business. But there are literally hundreds of channels on the DISH network system. You can choose any channel they carry or even turn off the TV. No one is forcing you to watch other news channels.
(If you are interested in the news as it is presented by Fox News their website remains available.)
And you could get it on SiriusXM radio too. That's where I listen to them these days. Even though I drive little these days, I can get all the Fox News I want in those short drives.
I'm just curios, do you agree with their ridiculous on air claims that dish is censoring them? It's stuff like that that makes me lose respect for any channel no matter how much I may like it previously.
I never said Dish is forcing me to watch anything. If I want to watch news on TV, and I do, the "good" choice is gone - "forced" by circumstance of a 2 sided dispute.
And, inkahauts, I worked in my union for most of my career - "claims" roll off my back. They are not informative nor to be taken seriously.
Yes, it is considered to be "de facto" censorship. De Facto is a legal term from the Latin,
If you think THAT is censorship you need a reality check.
Censorship is where foreign news channels like Sky News, CNN, CNBC, euronews, France 24, Al Jazeera and BBC World News fade to black anytime a story airs that could be perceived as negative to the ruling government.
Censorship is the government throwing reporters into jail because they reported something that was favorable to their opposition.
Censorship is having access to all foreign news sites along with social media sites like Facebook and Twitter blocked with the penalty of being arrested if you're caught circumventing those blocks.
Fox refusing to sign a new deal for Fox News and Fox Business unless Dish pays more for a channel who's contract isn't even up yet is NOT even close to censorship.
Wow. Just wow.. You have been watching that station to long if they have actually connived you that is what censorship means and you actually believe that.
There isn't anything even close to censorship going on here. Not even close.
I am just kidding. It isn't censorship, it is just hard-fisted business negotiating on both sides. Funny how the people on this board think there has to be a "good guy" and "bad guy" in this dispute. There are just two businessmen both trying to make as much money as they think is fair. Don't make it anything different than that.
Ok good. Couldn't tell.
And by the way I think there's just the bad guy and the other bad guy.
Just remember ... it was Fox that called in censorship. We're talking more about what Fox claims than what you are claiming - and they have not posted a "just kidding".
At the risk of being counted as a supporter or someone who cancelled their service, I visited the Keep Fox News website. They are posting regular updates ... Anything they can find on the Internet (or create and then link to?) that hurts DISH's reputation.
DISH's site just has Mr Ergen's video. No piling on of irrelevant links and stories. While it would be easy to find and link a lot of "I hate Fox" stories it seems DISH has taken the high road. They made their statement ... they don't need to get in the gutter.
It reminds me of DirecTV and The Weather Channel. When the channel dropped The Weather Channel posted all sorts of attacks on DirecTV including filing FCC complaints against WeatherNation. They went in to full attack mode ... and it made me wonder how DirecTV could ever do business with The Weather Channel again (the answer is money).
Fox News and Fox Business will be back on DISH ... but I hope Fox (that is Fox Entertainment) can get away from the insult attacks. Loaded language such as "censorship" does not help anyone.