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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Nashcat, Dec 14, 2014.
http://www.keepfoxnews.com/ has changed to a thank you page.
It would appear, at least for the moment, that the HD feed of Blaze has gone back into the shadows. I was so hoping they would keep that. I like to float around all the news channels but I tend to skip over the SD-only feeds, fair or not.
Thank you Pat. I also invested a tidy sum getting alternate means of news and entertainment so that I'm not as reliant on dish.
A thought just occurred to me, I wonder what the balance was for Dish considering losing a certain number of subscribers vs fees they did not have to pay for all their subscribers to FOX during the outage.
I had never considered that factor in the situation.
Hypothetically they lost 20,000 subs @ $80 per month - that's $16 million per month, but lets say they pay FOX $2 (I don't know what the real number is) per sub and they don't have to pay that for their 13 million subs - that's $26 million per month.
Now that the channels are back on the air Dish may have to start recovering the losses, but they probably were not hurting fiscally at all.
:joy: :joy: :joy:
I never thought I would miss Greta Van Susteren's face, but I did
You ought to write to her!
I haven't seen her face in two years, and it maybe another few decades before I do!
Fox is back, all is right.
Looks like the ability to use Dish credentials to stream FNC online might not have been part of the deal. Still.
I would not expect the credentials to work immediately. Especially if they didn't work before Fox News left.
That'd be $1.6 million, commenting on math only.....
Laxguy beat me to the math correction. Also, there's no reason to think anywhere near 20,000 people left Dish over this. I know someone at FOX randomly grabbed at a 90,000 customer figure... but there's not even proof that 1000 people left Dish over this.
I bet Dish didn't see anything different in their normal quarterly churn whenever the Q42014 and Q12015 numbers become public.
It is strange math ... the estimated $26 million is for a month (the channels were off three weeks) - the theoretical $1.6 million would be monthly. It would not necessarily reflect 20k customers who left - customers who may have chosen DISH could be scared off by "yet another channel dispute". Even though all carriers have had a dispute at one time or another.
It annoys me that Fox kept feeding their keepfoxnews.com website even though negotiations were ongoing and coming to a conclusion. The site is just the "we're back" page now (until they need it for the next dispute with whomever) but it was a haven for DISH bashing stories. A fresh attack nearly every day. That does not seem to be a nice way of negotiating.
Fox left their "leave DISH" site up as long as they could. DISH changed their site to reflect the impending conclusion.
The least Fox could have done was back off on the attacks when the channel return became imminent. It leads me to wonder what issues remain unresolved. When will the next Fox channel come up for renewal where they can reopen their "leave DISH" site under some other name.
Anyways - enough grousing from me. The channels are back ... be happy. I hope The Blaze and Newsmax get something out of their brief time in the spotlight near the other news channels. Channels 204 and 207 are available if they would agree to a permanent move - although Fox and the other "mainline" cable news channels may not like having them in the neighborhood.
I spoke too soon. My local Fox Network has NOT been restored. Got Fox News, Fox Business, but no Fox Network affiliate.
Looks like we won't be watching American Idol, NFL Playoff games, etc, after all.
If you put in your location in your profile, we wouldn't have to ask where "here" is. Where are you?
Earliest installation was scheduled for Jan 19. Cancelled, sorry DirecTV.
Remember though that Dish pays per sub to all the content providers. That $80/month includes fees to locals, MSNBC, CNN, TNT, HDNet/AXS, etc. They do lose recurring revenue, but not as much recurring profit as you might expect.
The media is calling this a big win for Fox. What I've see though is that Fox didn't get nearly what they were asking for. Of course, Dish would have liked to have held the compensation line, but that wasn't going to happen regardless.
When fox went dark I thought I miss the likes of Bill, Megyn, and others, but...
'the media' these days is mostly about eye-balls and click-bait. All to often their 'experts' really are 'former drips under pressure'!!
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