Looks Like FoxNews' Turn (FOX News and FOX Business down 12/21/2014 and back 1/15/2015)

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  1. Willh

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    your local Fox station is not owned by Fox
     
  2. KyL416

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    Yeah, your Fox affiliate going away had nothing to do with the Fox News dispute.
     
  3. James Long

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    Not related to Fox News and Fox Business ... but are your channels back now?
     
  4. Stewart Vernon

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    I forget where I read this... but somewhere (Broadband Reports maybe?) I saw some speculation that FOX News has gone from $1 to $1.50 per sub per month. No mention on FOX Business, but speculation that FOX Business has dropped to the same tier/package that FOX News is in... if true, that would be a de facto increase to FOX because the lower tier means more subscribers.

    I have no specific or definitive knowledge of this outside the place I can't remember where I read the above.
     
  5. tigerwillow1

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    "Fox News Channel is on track to earn $1.50 per cable subscriber per month in the not-too-distant future."

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/16/media/fox-news-fee-increase/index.html?section=money_latest

    If 50% of the package subscribers actually watch Fox News, they'll get $3 per viewer per month. Feels kinda high to me for something that's loaded with commercials too.
     
  6. James Long

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    I'm not sure where you're getting the $3 from. By the way, Fox News' placement in AT120 and the Smart Pack delivers it to nearly all of of DISH's subscribers.

    From the article:
    So today $1 ... 3-5 years $1.50. The article stated CNN gets about 61 cents and MSNBC half of that. Fox's rate does not seem to be too far out of line with the others - considering the popularity of the channel.
     
  7. Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah, the money amount didn't sound out of whack to me either. IF it is true that FOX Business drops to a lower tier, that might actually get FOX a lot more money so I'm surprised to not be reading more about that.

    Oh... and it was Broadband Reports... someone commented in an article they had there. Also, someone else mentioned that Dish/FOX may also be close to agreeing to end the FOX suit over the DVR/AutoHop stuff... which probably means the next FOX O&O agreement (whenever that is) will include more On Demand, streaming, and delay of AutoHop like ABC and CBS now have.
     
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  8. Michael P

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    I mentioned The Blaze in HD when I posted a commend during the FNC blackout. I hope they do it. It's not for lack of bandwidth, ch 204 had both SD & HD versions which continued after FNC & FBC came back on line.
     
  9. Wildblue

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    Looks like it just came back now.

    If Fox affiliate disappearing had nothing to do with Fox, the Dish CS rep was way out to lunch.

    Might not be saying much.
     
  10. James Long

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    They may not want to make a permanent commitment of bandwidth to the channel which would prevent them from adding another channel in HD before new bandwidth is created (freed up from other use). DISH is close enough to zero available that the bandwidth cost may be more important than the monthly rights fee when deciding if a channel can be carried in HD.
     
  11. Jaspear

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    Yeah, this is probably true. I also requested The Blaze to be changed to HD on 212 at the Dish Fox News pop up site. If you don't ask, you don't get. I don't think the rights fee is a problem since it popped up in HD on 205. Beck mentioned on his radio show that he was surprised (and happy) when that happened.
     
  12. patmurphey

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    Some bandwidth is already committed to the Smithsonian Channel HD.
     
  13. James Long

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    The press release does not mention "HD" but I expect that Smithsonian Channel will be restored in HD. I'm surprised it has not been restored yet ... perhaps part of the agreement with CBS was to add the channel later in 2015.
     
  14. mwdxer

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    It will be nice to see Smithsonian on Dish. I have it on the Roku. By my latest Dish bill, I see the price has gone up.
     
  15. mitchflorida

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    When Dish had Smithsonian before, it wasn't even offered in SD. It was in a special tier with other HD channels. I believe it was called Platinum, now called Blockbuster at Home package. I would be surprised if Dish puts it in the 200 package or lower. It will likely be 250 or blockbuster.
     
  16. James Long

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    When Platinum HD was introduced it was a HD only package ... but with the introduction of Blockbuster most channels got a SD equivalent and a couple of channels dropped to SD only.

    Smithsonian was last in test (not available to customers) from 3/13/13 at 3:51pm ET until 9/11/13 at 4:16pm ET. It was also in test as a SD channel in 2012.
     
  17. Jaspear

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    Probably true. As for The Blaze, I wish they would at least down convert the HD, so that the feed on 212 is widescreen SD, rather than windowboxed 4x3. Doing that would improve the resolution, eliminating the need to zoom it to 16x9.
     
  18. Stewart Vernon

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    The problem is... all the SD receivers out there on Dish accounts that would be unable to handle a widescreen SD channel make this a non-starter. I am not aware of any channel (at least in the US) being broadcast in SD widescreen. It's either HD widescreen or SD 4:3 to be most compatible with older equipment.
     
  19. mwdxer

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    I wonder how many viewers out there still use the old CRT's?
     
  20. James Long

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    At least half ... and when one considers second and third TVs the number would rise.
    There are a lot of SD TVs still in service.
     

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