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Lt Gov Ben Barnes breaks silence

Discussion in 'The OT' started by ypsiguy, Sep 3, 2004.

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  1. Capmeister

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    Ooookay. I don't think Dick Cheney's middle initialis W. You're just trying to bash, I think. Why not drop that sort of crap?

    You don't see me calling Kerry Flip-flopper or something here.

    Politicans bend truth. If I refused to vote for one that did, I'd vote for no one.

    I'm voting for whose policies on the war I agree with more. That's Bush.

    Kerry? I think he'd be dangerous to elect as a war President.

    We can disagree about that--but calling people liars, cheaters, or morons--that gets us no where and is meaningless BS.
     
  2. Capmeister

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    You know, I think Danny R is the only one of ya worth debating this stuff with. He's reasonable and sees through the politics.
     
  3. olgeezer

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    This is a Republican administration that promised never to use fear for a reason for being. There are only politicians left, statesman have disappeared. This has been the most polarising administration in memory.
     
  4. Capmeister

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    Riiight. Because both sides don't polarize. I'll just forget those "elect a republican and another black church burns" ads and all that.
     
  5. olgeezer

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    The statement of fear was from President Bush. The statement about statesmanship and a polarising administration was from that left winger Bob Dole
     
  6. DonLandis

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    "This has been the most polarising administration in memory."

    I agree with that if your memory stops with the beginning of the GWB presidency. Maybe you'd be more correct if you'd have said, "with every administratiion, democrat or republican the polarizing of the nation gets worse." To say what you did is just another dimwit hate statement.
    To be fare, however, I really don't know the definition of the word "polarising" if you meant polarizing then my comment stands. :)
     
  7. olgeezer

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    I would never call Bob Dole a person that made dimwitted hate statements
     
  8. BuckeyeChris

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    Authenticity of Bush Memos Questioned (MSNBC) 9/10/2004

    If these documents turn out to be forged, not only could this be a major PR disaster for CBS News and cause a lot of heads to roll, but if it turns out there is a link between CBS and Democrats connected to Kerry, the you know what will hit the fan and Kerry will be officially sunk. Stay tuned.
     
  9. Bogy

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    Just wait until it is discovered that these memos were a plant by Republicans. Just another part of the vast right wing conspiracy. :D
     
  10. HappyGoLucky

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    Will you people EVER stop revising history to suit your present positions?
     
  11. Capmeister

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    By "you people" to whom do you refer? Jews?
     
  12. Timco

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    Have these so called "experts" never heard of the IBM Selectric? They have had a typewriter capable of proportional spacing since the '40's.

    Deflect and confuse. How about we deal with real issues and not these stupid political games.
     
  13. HappyGoLucky

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    "You people" meaning Bushies. And you can sputter and spew all you like about being "non-partisan" but your partisanship is crystal clear here. By following the mantra laid out by the RNC, revisionist messages keep repeating over and over by all "you people" so they get drilled in. Doesn't matter that they're basically bald-faced lies, repeat them enough and everyone will start believing them. That's the entire Bush presidency in a nutshell.
     
  14. Capmeister

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    I am only me and have been saying the same thing the whole time. Want me to show you?

    Also--not a Republican.
     
  15. BuckeyeChris

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    "... Independent document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines said the memos looked like they had been produced on a computer using Microsoft Word software. Lines, a document expert and fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, pointed to a superscript — a smaller, raised "th" in "111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron" — as evidence indicating forgery.

    Microsoft Word automatically inserts superscripts in the same style as the two on the memos obtained by CBS, she said.

    "I'm virtually certain these were computer generated," Lines said after reviewing copies of the documents at her office in Paradise Valley, Ariz. She produced a nearly identical document using her computer's Microsoft Word software. ..."
    - AP Article
     
  16. Richard King

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    Daughter of Ben Barnes Disputes Father's Claims as Political
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  17. SimpleSimon

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    Regarding typewriters. The Selectric was not introduced until 1961. Certain "Executive" models of IBM typewriter that could do proportional printing have been around since the late 1940's. The IBM Selectric "Composer" (first introduced in 1966) could also do proportional printing.

    None of these were something the military would've had in an office due to the extreme expense, both of acquistion and maintenance.

    But none of that matters, because NONE of these machines were capable of easily producing a subscript or superscript "th" in a smaller font.
     
  18. HappyGoLucky

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    Yeah, sure.
     
  19. HappyGoLucky

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    Obviously SOMEBODY in the military had the equipment to produce the scripts, because Bush military documents dating back to 1968 that the White House released also contain the exact same typeface and superscript. Imagine that.
     
  20. SimpleSimon

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    Prove it.
     
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