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Making the Jump to FiOS from DIRECTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Reaper, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. Nov 19, 2008 #81 of 172
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    I just recently tried out FIOS. I've had DirecTV for 7 years and have been happy for the most part. FIOS just came to my area and I was going to get the internet service so I thought I would give the TV a try.

    I considered for a few reasons. First it would save me money. I also liked the idea of the better On Demand options. The Multi Room DVR and better picture quality were also factors. With DTV I have been a little disappointed with the HR-DVR. Missed/Black recordings, lack of DLB, slow response times to the remote, limit of 50 series recordings.

    The FIOS was nice but it really lacked a fully developed feature set.

    Pros: Picture was amazing. Channel line up was as good as DirecTV (for my purposes). Being able to watch shows On Demand was really nice. They had network shows that would only have 1 commercial for the entire episode on demand. Using the Multi Room DVR was nice as well. Being able to switch TVs and pick up from the same place in a show was great.

    Cons:

    The DVR is really primitive IMO. The capacity is very small. I would estimate I could get about 12 hours of HD before it was full. I like to have a wide library of recorded shows so this didn't work. There wasn't a way to extended a recording for an individual show. You could only do this for a series recording. Usually I use this feature to record sporting events, which I am not setting up as a series recording. There wasn't a way to sort the list of recordings and often shows didn't have the actual episode information. The trick-play features also were very slow to respond when watching something not on the main TV. I could go on, but you get the idea...the DVR just didn't have a good feature set.

    I was also disappointed with the On Demand library. While I liked having the feature there wasn't as much content as I expected.


    So it really depends on what your interests are. If you are a heavy DVR user you may be a little disappointed with the Verizon DVR. If you like the sports packs you may also be a little dissapointed though I will say in regard to a comment earlier in Southern California FIOS does have the Big Ten Network in HD. If you are looking for Top picture quality, HBO in HD, more On Demand options then FIOS may be right for you.

    After a week I called and canceled FIOS TV and went back to DirecTV (I never disconnected it).
     
  2. Nov 19, 2008 #82 of 172
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    As always, a thoughtful response.

    God forbid I comment on FiOS, versus DirecTV in a thread discussing such matters.
     
  3. Nov 19, 2008 #83 of 172
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    Why so much for DirecTV with one DVR? In NY, there are also about $10-$15 phone taxes you need to add to the FiOS $99/month. I forget exactly how much they run. /steve
     
  4. Nov 19, 2008 #84 of 172
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    Yes, full of thought....on a site pertaining to DBS...

    All comments welcome...enjoy.....I've been entertained enough on this topic and have moved on....have fun...
     
  5. Nov 19, 2008 #85 of 172
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    Not to overstate the obvious, but the phone taxes are just for the phone service. Which means that if the OP currently has Verizon phone service, he's paying them anyway. That won't change for him. There is, however, a franchise fee that you'll need to pay for TV service - it's generally really small though (although it does vary by state) - mine's really minor. If he doesn't get Verizon phone service for this deal (say he just goes with FiOS TV and internet, but doesn't have a landline) then he doesn't get hit with those phone taxes at all.
     
  6. Nov 19, 2008 #86 of 172
    Steve

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    Agree. Just pointing out that $99 really isn't $99, in the interest of full disclosure. :) E.g., my Vonage VOIP (prepaid for a year) is $25/month, including taxes.

    So I currently pay a total of $123 ($40 for Verizon FiOS, $25 for Vonage and $48 + $10 HD to DirecTV) for the equivalent of what you get in the $124 ($99 + $15 taxes and fees + $10 extreme HD) Verizon package after 3 months. And that package will probably rise to $150-$160 after 12 months, since you'll probably pay more for each leg of the Triple-Play.

    None of those numbers included costs for DVR's and STB's. /steve
     
  7. Nov 19, 2008 #87 of 172
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    Good point. I just broke it down because I read, frequently (and erroneously) that you get hit with those charges if you just get TV or internet service. I also read (again, incorrectly) that just getting their internet service causes you to get hit with the franchise fee.

    I also agree that you need to do a real apples-to-apples comparison. Take the set-up that you have, and see how much it costs on one vs. the other. That's what I did - and found out that switching saved me some money. If your setup is different (e.g. if you have say 4 DVRs) then the equation obviously changes.
     
  8. Nov 19, 2008 #88 of 172
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    That a good savings, especially after factoring in the D* costs for NFL ST. If they had Fios in my area and the savings worked out that way for me, I know that I would switch. Ironically, my recent switch from TW cable to D* and AT&T DSL is saving me almost the exact same amount the first year (D* savings $445, AT&T DSL savings $132).
     
  9. Nov 19, 2008 #89 of 172
    Steve

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    Exactly. Before we got distracted by that copper nonsense, I think I calculated somewhere that my set-up now is $93 for 6 HD DVR's and one STB (no premiums), $25 for Vonage and $40 for FiOS. Total $158/month.

    The FiOS Triple Play in NY would cost me $99 + $15 (taxes and fees) + $10 (Extreme HD) + $10 (HD STB) + $64 (4-HD DVR's)... total $189/month for months 1-3 (no Extreme HD fee), and $199/month for months 3-12. Would probably go up to $230/month for months 13 on.

    I'm not sure how this equation changes if you add HD TiVo's instead of the Verizon DVR's, but I suspect that the TiVo GUIDE data subscription charges alone for 6 DVR's would be prohibitive, not to mention the outlay for the boxes. Haven't researched this, however. /steve
     
  10. Nov 19, 2008 #90 of 172
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    Right - I just realized - you're in the NY area. Your pricing/packages are different (I won't get into the details, but suffice to say that you guys get a better price than anyone else because Verizon is trying to attract NYC customers). For example, for me an HD STB will be $10/month. For you it would be $6. Although the DVRs are the same price.

    As for tivo - you wouldn't save anything. I priced it out, and simply couldn't justify the cost. First off, like you said, you would need Tivo service, which, even if you prepay for 3 years, would cost you, I believe, about $9/month (and I think that's per DVR). Then you need cable cards. And there's the rub. Right now Verizon is JUST starting to stock up on M-cards. So you would need 2 S-cards per DVR! That's alot of money.
     
  11. Nov 19, 2008 #91 of 172
    Reaper

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    CHOICE XTRA Monthly $57.99
    HBO, STARZ!, SHOWTIME, & CINEMAX Monthly $43.00
    DIRECTV HD EXTRA PACK Monthly $4.99
    HD Access Monthly $9.99
    DIRECTV DVR Service Monthly $5.99
     
  12. Nov 19, 2008 #92 of 172
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    Steve,

    The HD STB price is now $5.99/month in NY & N NJ, the price dropped $4/month on it. Another reason I am probably going to get them as my backup TV provider, since Cablevision is going to charge $6.50/month for their HD STB.
     
  13. Nov 19, 2008 #93 of 172
    Steve

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    Good to hear. $10/month for a vanilla HD box was kind of absurd, IMO, especially since they now nail you for that "extreme HD" monthly fee. And they should drop the HD DVR's to $10/month from $16, especially since you can only store 20 hours of HD programming on them. Just my .02. /steve
     
  14. Nov 20, 2008 #94 of 172
    Reaper

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    The only real concern that I have about FiOS is the small HD DVR hard drive (160 GB or about 20 hours of HD recording time). I've done a little more research online and it is rumored that Verizon will be adding external hard drive support to their late model DVRs shortly after the new year, probably via eSATA.
     
  15. Nov 20, 2008 #95 of 172
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    Yup. Pricing aside, 20 hours HD would definitely be a show-stopper for us, especially if we wanted to consider their MRV offering. That's not even a week's worth of shows for us, so if went away on vacation, we'd be out of luck. /steve
     
  16. Nov 20, 2008 #96 of 172
    Reaper

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    That's a good point Steve! :)
     
  17. Nov 21, 2008 #97 of 172
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    So, people with fiber still pay for telephone? And they have a cellphone?

    We yanked our landline soon after we switched to Skype. When I call a landline - which therefore isn't free - I pay 2ยข a minute.

    We use pay-as-you-go cellphones for emergencies and whatever.
     
  18. Nov 21, 2008 #98 of 172
    Steve

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    Perhaps as a sign of what's coming, early this summer, Verizon began bundling broadband access and cell service into a "double-play". /steve
     
  19. Nov 21, 2008 #99 of 172
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    I have to have Verizon for phone service where I live. And they may be a very good company elsewhere, but here they are awful :eek2: I'm certainly not going to get involved with Verizon for TV when they can't even provide good phone service :raspberry
     
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    I note your speeds there, captain, because I've got Comcast as my ISP and I consistently run around 30-35Mbps down and 4-6Mbps up, and that's on their basic service. I'm not complaining about those speeds at all.
     

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