Malaysia Airlines Jet Crashes in Ukraine

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    Some people might say that the probability of three Malaysian going down in a row is astronomical so it might make them the safest.
     
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    And what were the odds of TWO in a row going down, let alone one? I'd say similarly astronomical, but that wouldn't stop ME from avoiding them like the plague.

    Some people just have s--tty luck.
     
  7. James Long

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    One going missing ... rare.
    One being shot down - unlucky, but not the airline's fault (the same path was being flown by other airlines who chose to fly a direct route to save fuel).

    The freak out factor is enough to look for an alternative airline. I would not have flown Malaysian Airlines before March ... so it does not affect me. But I'd usually look for a different airline.

    If these were British Airways or Air Canada flights I would not hesitate to fly British Airways or Air Canada. Those people who would fly Malaysian before could have the same feelings.
     
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    It wasn't until the Malaysian flight that I found out that a Navy ship accidentally shot down an Iranian passenger jet in the 80s. I had no idea.


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    Funny you should mention that, because when I recently heard about that, I was wondering if I had known of it at the time and had since forgotten, or if I never knew of it at all. We did have CNN and Headline News back then, so it is unlikely that it went unreported.

    I'm not going to pull us off thread with examples, but over the years, I have observed that a lot of contemporary "revelations" of old yet interesting news had in fact been reported at the time, even on the front pages of major newspapers and in the national weekly news magazines, but those stories never persisted in the public consciousness. Even now, a lot of what we think we remember having seen on TV in the 1960s, we didn't actually see until it started being rebroadcast in the news channel era. I've heard so many people waxing nostalgic with their "recollections" of having contemporaneously hear this item or that item on the news even though those news events were reported during weekdays, when surely the TV audience for their live announcements was in the low single digits.
     
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    It was widely reported.

    We just didn't have the news machine that broadcast and re-broadcast every detail 24x7.
     
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    CNN had two US channels ... one actually broadcast news with top stories repeated every 30 minutes (other stories repeated every 90 minutes) without pundits telling us what to think. CNBC launched the next year. MSNBC and FNC launched about eight years later.

    I remember the Iran Air 655 coverage ... it was graphic and shocking. Apparently it was OK to show dead bodies if they were not American bodies (including on the major TV networks). But despite the irreverence it helped Iran get the point across that PEOPLE died when that plane was shot down. It was hard to turn on the only news network without seeing coverage of flight 655 ... until something else came along.

    Two years prior I was glued to CNN for coverage of the Challenger disaster. I missed seeing the disaster live (space launches were getting passe) but as soon I we knew what happened the TV did not change channels.

    A bygone era where the news channels did not need to out pundit each other.
     
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    At that time, I had 3 or 4 channels OTA. The condo I lived in couldn't decide on letting cable in or putting in a dish.

    TV wasn't that important at the time.
     
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    For me it was probably an age thing, I was in 4th grade during Challenger. That I remember vividly.
     
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    The first disaster I seem to recall is the sinking of the Andrea Doria in 1956. 52 people we're kill.
     
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    Different plane manufacture ... different operating company. But never good to lose a plane.


    An Indonesia AirAsia flight with 162 people aboard, most of them Indonesians, disappeared Sunday over the Java Sea, triggering a search involving several Southeast Asian nations.

    Contact with Flight 8501 was lost about 42 minutes after the single-aisle, twin-engine A320-200 jet took off from Surabaya airport in Indonesia for Singapore.

    It was not immediately clear whether it had any satellite tracking devices on board.

    Malaysia-based AirAsia, led by Malaysian businessman Tony Fernandes, has dominated cheap travel in the region for years. AirAsia Malaysia owns 49 percent of its subsidiary, AirAsia Indonesia. It said the plane was on the submitted flight plan route when the pilots requested deviation due to weather before communication was lost.

    AirAsia, which has a presence in most of Southeast Asia and recently in India, has never lost a plane before and has a good safety track record.
     
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    It is 2014. Why is this not required on any plane making a water crossing?
     

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