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Mass shooting @ Connecticut elementary school. 20 children killed.

Discussion in 'The OT' started by cj9788, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. Cholly

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    I haven't always agreed with Joe Scarborough, but his impassioned ten minute talk about how the events in Newtown have changed his mind and perhaps his life, is worth watching and taking to heart. Thanks for the link.
     
  2. MysteryMan

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    I agree with you about human intervention. But the damage has been done. We can't reintroduce the wolves, coy dogs, fox, ect. into most of the areas they were once native, hence the need for human hunters. For the record, I eat what I kill. I don't trophy hunt. Personally I think it's barbaric mounting heads on a wall.
     
  3. damondlt

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    Agree 1000%
     
  4. Hoosier205

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    More examples of why this will continue to happen. "Responsible" assault weapon owners defending their ownership of high powered, high capacity weapons that serve no legitimate purpose. Yes, guns laws are ineffective when we have "responsible" gun owners who are not as responsible as they would like us to believe. All of the weapons involved in these countless mass murders once belonged to "responsible" gun owners. Those who feel justified in owning an AR-15 type weapon are part of the problem. They SHARE some responsibility for the murder of those children. Had it not been for people like that...we wouldn't have the gun related death tolls we see in this country each year. It's sheer ignorance to look at the disparity between this country and others and then come to the conclusion that they are doing something wrong with their gun laws. We average 20 mass killings per year. Thank you responsible gun owners of America. Thank you for arming those murders.
     
  5. runner861

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    From reading your posts, one wonders about your level of sanity. But we certainly know about what is important to you--your assault weapons. We know that the terror that those kids felt in their last moments, and the pain that their families now feel, mean nothing to you. We know that you profess to want to give an "enema" to the criminal justice system--yet are unable to effectively explain what you mean by that. We know that you twist facts to your liking. We know that you type slowly, just like you said in the post above, yet your statements still make no sense--"more gun control laws will have no effective on those breaking the law." Didn't you mean effect? What you are really doing is calling for anarchy and vigilante rule, since apparently no law is effective, since any law can be broken. And of course you have to insult our government--calling the people who work for the government "mucky mucks." Why don't you think instead of just ranting all the time?

    Like President Obama said last night, we can no longer take the position that we are powerless to do anything about this because of the politics, we can no longer accept these massacres occurring repeatedly.
     
  6. damondlt

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    Thats exactly the point, why keep working on something that doesn't work.

    You can ban AR's all day makes no difference to me. Its not going to make a difference in the real world either.
    Someone wants to do another shooting , they don't NEED an AR.

    Ban Guns ???? HA Ok well, while you look for the rolled up news paper to protect your family from an intruder, I'll use my 40. that I hid from the govenment to protect mine.

    Its time to step up school security, stop school bullying, get children and adults the proper help and evaluations.

    I don't blame the guns.
    Right now , I blame the governments lack of school protection.
     
  7. runner861

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    Agree 100 percent. I am tired of seeing the "responsible" and "law-abiding" gun owners, even on this site, bullying everyone else.
     
  8. damondlt

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    OK without Bullying.

    What do you want done.

    Ban all Guns in the USA?

    What about the school?,
    What if next someone fills up bottles of gas and throws it into a class room.
    Will the gun ban remedy that?
    Do we ban Gas and Glass Bottles then?

    Can't we just secure the school the way it should be?
     
  9. Hoosier205

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    So you would arm the schools because responsible gun owners aren't really as responsible as they pretend to be. Got it. There is a solution for you. Our gun laws are far too weak and out gun owners far too irresponsible. People like you should apologize to the parents of those children for your part in allowing the shooter access to the weapons used to murder their children.
     
  10. damondlt

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    This has to be the dumbest statement of the day. Sorry but you really need to get out into the real world and away from your computer.

    Ban Guns all you want Shooter would have found one.
     
  11. wilbur_the_goose

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    How about these two ideas:
    1. Step up mental health programs to get these folks off the street. Undo the early 1980's laws that PUT these nutcases on the street (they were ususally in state hospitals before that).

    2. Urge private "entertainment" companies (films and video games) to cut down the amount of violence. Yes, they have a right to free speech and a right to make money, but some of these games are over the top and can affect the people mentioned in #1.

    PS - as far as the school's perimeter protection goes, the local police department said they would have been gunned down as easily as the school staff based on the arsenal the guy had.
     
  12. Hoosier205

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    Who do you think is arming the shooters? You cannot think for yourself beyond your NRA talking points. These murders aren't robbing gun manufacturers or crafting their own.
     
  13. RunnerFL

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    I don't see anyone bullying anyone here, just over the top drama from those who think their way, without guns, is the only way.
     
  14. damondlt

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    I own 3 guns.

    Far from a NRA member.

    The shooter is arming himself, In this case, his mother had the guns clearly not in a proper safe.'
    He stole them from his mom.

    OK so based on your belief if there were no guns. This never would have happend. Correct.

    OK well we better not let you near a gun then, becuase appearently you have some strange thoughts in your head cause you think if someone has a gun, they must want to kill people with it.:nono:


    I got news for you , if this guy had no gun, it would have been something else. He obviously was not totally saine.
     
  15. SayWhat?

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    Come to think of it, it says 'arms' which doesn't necessarily mean 'firearms'. Archery and swords/blade weapons, clubs, etc. would all qualify.

    And if we can't ban weapons selectively, why are brass knuckles and switchblades outlawed in so many places?
     
  16. damondlt

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    You have 100% no proof that would have been the case.


    The fact that there was NO warning, is where the problem lies!
     
  17. damondlt

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    This is what i see happening.

    I see a rise in school budget, I see incresed school security.
    I see a ban on AR's
    Maybe some money chucked at metal research.

    Thats about it.

    Now I'll send my kids to the school with the security cameras and armed guard, and you guys can send your kids to school with the Door buzzer.
     
  18. Hoosier205

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    Yes, there is a solution! More guns. Oh yes...that has worked so well.
     
  19. MysteryMan

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    You remind me of a forty pound canary. Have you ever seen a forty pound canary? They're so full of sh*t.......While my spelling may not be up to par it's never impeded my ability to make a small fortune investing in income properties. ;) Tell us oh great one, how much have you earned being a human spell check? :sure: Again, you fail to read with comprehension. When and where did I post calling for anarchy and vigilante rule? Quote me and give us the post number where I said that. Quote me and give us the post number where I said no law is effective. You can't! You use the word "we" when describing how I feel or don"t feel and what's important to me. Who's "we"? Please tell us who they are and when they appointed you to be their mouthpiece? If you can't cough up their names I suggest you drop the 'we" and starting usung "I" and speak for yourself. ;) And are you claiming to have mind reading capabilities? Because unless you do you you have no idea how I feel or what's important to me. As far as me referring those in government as "mucky mucks", it's my right. It's called Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Self Expression! They, along with our other rights and liberties stated in the Constitution are enforced via the 2nd Amendment. That's something else you fail to comprehend. :rolleyes:
     
  20. damondlt

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    And saying school security won't work, but yet never ever been tried for vast majority of scools accross the USA, hasn't worked so well either.
    You guys can claim what you want, but out off all the school shootings which ones had their own security. I'm going to say none.

    Criminals look for the weak and defenceless.
     
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